I don't recall Cena calling it phony, fake, and saying it doesn't matter that he is the top of company.

Well he's not going to say that. But I bet he didn't keep kayfabe.

And it shouldn't matter to him if he's not in the main event. He's still the top paid guy. As he should be.

I will leave this thread with this.

Fuck that whining little douche bag known as Phil Brooks. I shouldn't even call him CM Punk anymore. I hope he gets his ass kicked in UFC. Not that I will buy his first ppv because I don't want any money going to him.
There are many guys who are in wwe who want to be there that I will give my respect to and I will get behind.

Bull wrote:

There are many guys who are in wwe who want to be there that I will give my respect to and I will get behind.

They would leave if there was some place else to go. Not everyone is Alberto El Patron.

MooseNugget wrote:

Bull wrote:

There are many guys who are in wwe who want to be there that I will give my respect to and I will get behind.

They would leave if there was some place else to go. Not everyone is Alberto El Patron.

They will still be in the business, If they continue to show their love and respect for it I will show them respect.


Once again Fuck Phil Brooks

I have a feeling those first page comments were directed toward me for pointing out he might have a financial incentive to "work" the fans. That's stupid.

ChillyD32 wrote:

It' alright. When this whole UFC thing ends, he'll eventually return and he'll be saying what Lesnar is now "I'm an entertainer at heart"

He'll eventually be back in pro-wrestling in some capacity when he finds out he can't cut it in the UFC.

This topic is the highest post grossing in the wrestling forum.

Ya did good, Maestro!

You're the best

In The World

Punk is a bitch ass dot

Batman wrote:

Tomorrow: CM Punk goes on shooting spree, kills hundreds of people

Those people: "Well you can't blame him. After all the shit Vince did to him and having to travel 300 days a year and getting screwed over, you tend to start hating people."

That was hilarious. I can see that too.

Batman wrote:

And I love Punk because to me, he's the greatest of all time next to the Undertaker. And he's the wrestler I can most closely relate to both gimmick wise and irl wise. Punk was a huge role model for me, and still is. I guarantee you I probably like Punk more than you do.

Same.

Mexi commenting in places where he doesn't belong.

Deport his ass

ChillyD32 wrote:

"Fake" makes it sound like it's counterfeit, like buying something called Addibas when it's really Adidas.

Pro wrestling, books, films etc. tell storeys via scripted content. Saying they are fake is just used in the wrong context imo.

Yup.

Is there a thread where Dead doesn't look stupid?

Razor went ham in this thread tbh.

I'm not reading through 100+ comments

But he has a point

Now if people are pissy that he said "fake wrestler", please shut up. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. He has a point: just look at Bo Dallas' gimmick, for example. He bo-lieves he's the best and greatest and can overcome anything. In the end, like Punk said, someone else picks who they want in the top spot. So if someone legitimately thinks they're the best at wrestling, it's not up to them to get into main events. It's on the booker.

I feel like too many people are bitching and complaining that he said "fake wrestling". You guys know it's scripted, right? And that there is a difference between wrestling and pro-wrestling, right? Hell, even the definitions are fucking different.

Wrestling: the sport or activity of grappling with an opponent and trying to throw or hold them down on the ground, typically according to a code of rules.

Pro-Wrestling: an athletic performance that combines athletics with theatrical performance.

So yeah... it can be called "fake wrestling".

Señor 12th Man wrote:

Razor went ham in this thread tbh.

Bull went more ham tbh.

Pro-wrestling is fake. There are no real winners. It's predetermined. Yes, it takes athleticism. Yes, they can still be considered athletes. But first and foremost, they're entertainers over anything else. It's fake.

End of discussion.

Here are some more highlights from the interview, as well as the link to the full article:

Quote :

Does it feel like you were competing in WWE?

It’s definitely a competition. Backstage is so shark-infested and political. It’s almost comical. A lot of people are more interested in the backstage goings-on than what they see on television. A lot of ways it’s more fascinating. It’s a competition for sure.

If he had control over the booking of his character in WWE

Yeah, eventually. But I was one of the few. And even in that, I could make a recommendation but at the end of the day, it’s Vince’s company and his say.

Pro wrestling is fake:

Exactly. In pro wrestling, it’s fake. People always get offended by that word. ‘No, we like to say it’s pre-determined.’ For whatever reason, people get angry at fake; pre-determined eases the blow? It’s fake. At the end of the day it doesn’t really mean anything. So after a while, it was, ‘Let’s just really fight and see what happens.’ Now I get to.

Thoughts on Brock Lesnar:

I love him. I think he’s awesome This is what we have in common: I’ll tell you how I am. Now don’t be surprised when I’m like that. No apologies. No bulls—

Wrestlers making the transition to MMA:

I am, too. I’ve always been surrounded by guys who talked about it. Half of them talk about it; none of them do it. They have their little comfortable safety net doing WWE stuff, I guess. I would much rather give it a shot than just talk about it.

FULL ARTICLE: http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/04/10/cm-punk-wwe-ufc-training

FUCKING RIGHT THERE.

Exactly. In pro wrestling, it’s fake. People always get offended by that word. ‘No, we like to say it’s pre-determined.’ For whatever reason, people get angry at fake; pre-determined eases the blow? It’s fake. At the end of the day it doesn’t really mean anything. So after a while, it was, ‘Let’s just really fight and see what happens.’ Now I get to.

All the champions over all the years and years to come didn't have to do anything to win it. Think of it like a race. You want to win. If WWE were a race, they choose somebody from the front, middle, or rear to win. Plain and simple. And it's like that with pro-wrestling.

So...basically he was asked the question and he answered it? Not a big deal to me.