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Batman I am Batman
Posts : 19334 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 28 Location : Learning maturity
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:51 pm | |
| Those heels generally don't get heat. They either get no response whatsoever or people chant "boring" or etc during their matches. ____________________ . Favorite Current Wrestlers:1. Sasha Banks 2. Becky Lynch 3. 4. 5. Favorite All-Time Wrestlers:Your dad |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
Posts : 23406 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 32 Location : Kotzebue, AK
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:34 pm | |
| Yeah I don't think anyone in WWE gets the kind of heat.
It's the sort of heat Mike Bennett used to get because people thought he sucked. ____________________ |
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Nate Main Eventer
Posts : 2724 Join date : 2013-07-22 Age : 29 Location : Orlando, Florida
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:48 pm | |
| - Minkaro wrote:
- Dysfunction 2014 wrote:
- Those who find it annoying realize that if you find it annoying, she's then doing her job well, right?
Considering she usually gets hit by a move and loses the match just after that skipping, it probably isn't doing her job well if her job is to win matches.
I mean, I get where you're coming from, but pretending for a moment that wrestling is real, it's like losing a race because you decided to start break-dancing just before the finish line, allowing everyone else to run past you. That's the thing, though. If wrestling WASN'T scripted, then it would be a stupid thing to do because she would have to work her hardest to win the match. Her job isn't necessarily to win matches if she's a heel. Her job is to look bad, but then look good when it actually matters i.e. the last few times she's lost match after match before a PPV and come the PPV, she retains the Divas title. Just like that. A lot of people have rather annoying gimmicks in wrestling, but it's how she's managed at the end of the day. |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:11 pm | |
| I'm starting to watch RAW again and out of the two hours I watched the divas was the least compelling thing on the show. Not to my surprise BTW. ____________________ |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:56 pm | |
| - Razor wrote:
- If you're a heel, all heat is good heat.
No...its not. The term "X-Pac Heat" is usually given to someone not because they're playing a good heel....it's because the crowd flat out does not like them overall. Vickie Guerrero gets this kind of heat, and it's not because of her character. |
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Batman I am Batman
Posts : 19334 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 28 Location : Learning maturity
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:06 pm | |
| I'm pretty sure EVERY heel would KILL to get Vickie's heat. ____________________ . Favorite Current Wrestlers:1. Sasha Banks 2. Becky Lynch 3. 4. 5. Favorite All-Time Wrestlers:Your dad |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
Posts : 23406 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 32 Location : Kotzebue, AK
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:10 pm | |
| I don't think Vickie gets X-Pac heat. It's easier to boo a manager. Steve Corino was even able to get the crowd against him in ROH. ____________________ |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:11 pm | |
| She used to, in the very beginning. It's died down some since everyone's had time to get used to her i think.
And no, even the best heels wouldnt want legit hatred heat...this isnt 1997 anymore |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:14 pm | |
| At least heels don't have to worry about getting stabbed at shows anymore... I think anyway ____________________ |
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Batman I am Batman
Posts : 19334 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 28 Location : Learning maturity
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:15 pm | |
| What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, heels WOULDN'T want this heat in 1997, when kayfabe meant something. Now, kayfabe means shit. Faces getting mixed reactions, heels getting 90% cheers (see: CM Punk in 2013), etc. ____________________ . Favorite Current Wrestlers:1. Sasha Banks 2. Becky Lynch 3. 4. 5. Favorite All-Time Wrestlers:Your dad |
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Nate Main Eventer
Posts : 2724 Join date : 2013-07-22 Age : 29 Location : Orlando, Florida
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:45 pm | |
| And this is why WWE no longer has faces or heels. |
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Gopher Love Bites
Posts : 9666 Join date : 2013-07-19 Age : 31 Location : Arlington, Texas
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:22 pm | |
| I still don't get why it's called X-Pac Heat. I thought X-Pac was great. >_> |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:02 pm | |
| Because fan were booing the shit out of him even though he was a babyface. Same thing happened to Ron Garvin after he beat Flair for The World Title in '87. ____________________ |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:35 pm | |
| - Razor wrote:
- What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, heels WOULDN'T want this heat in 1997, when kayfabe meant something. Now, kayfabe means shit. Faces getting mixed reactions, heels getting 90% cheers (see: CM Punk in 2013), etc.
Kayfabe means nothing if fans legit dont like you. Kayfabe meant nothing back in the day either, when wrestlers lives were in danger. |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:01 pm | |
| Kayfabe meant everything back then. Skandor Akbar was in danger every night he'd piss off a crowd but he wouldn't dare brake kayfabe to get out of it.
When actual riots happened they didn't say "Don't worry fans it's all fake anyway." No the heels would get the fuck out of town before they got killed. ____________________ |
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Batman I am Batman
Posts : 19334 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 28 Location : Learning maturity
| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:54 pm | |
| WTF you mean kayfabe wasn't important back then? Yes it was. ____________________ . Favorite Current Wrestlers:1. Sasha Banks 2. Becky Lynch 3. 4. 5. Favorite All-Time Wrestlers:Your dad |
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Nate Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: AJ Lee's Reign as Champion Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:06 am | |
| Back then, heels had balls. Now, they're PG and you can't seriously offend anyone or you'll get fired. |
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MooseNugget TeamMoose
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