Come up with a subject and debate about it...


Gore & Spear aren't they the same? YES

Of course they're different genius. Gore is a strike, Spear is a grapple. Not even a debate...

John Cena is an excellent wrestler.

They are pretty much the same damn move. People like to call the gore a different move to hype up Rhyno so much. The Gore and Spear are tackles. hell I have seen Rhyno grapple people with the gore, so if anything the gore is just another name for the Spear.

With the Gore, a properly done one, anyway, Rhyno leaps into the air and drives his shoulder into the opponent's ribs. Nothing more. With the Spear, the attack wraps their arm around the opponent's guts and drills them down. It's NOT a debate.

I see a grapple and a attack to a gut. So did Rhyno use a spear? I am pretty sure Joey Styles was yelling out GORE! GORE! GORE!



I see a strike more than a grapple, but Edge, Regins, and Goldberg have all done just a strike. Oh and it was to the guts

I did say a PROPERLY DONE ONE, that's like saying Batista's "Powerbomb" was a "Batista Bomb" even though the SIt-Down Powerbomb is completely different from a regular Powerbomb. That is a very sloppy Gore, but why would Joey Styles say "SPEAR!"? And ruin kayfabe?

You know what makes a gore a gore, the fact rhino is using it. If Rhino went under a different name and still had his finisher I doubt it would be called a gore, it would be called a spear. It's only called a gore because it fits the name, because that's what rhinos do. Which means no one else can call their finisher the gore, unless their wrestling name is that of an animal that gores.

Cena used a sit-down powerbomb before in one of his matches with CM Punk. It wasn't a Batista bomb because he wasn't Batista.

That doesn't matter, its not a Gore. A Gore is a different move. Someone else could use the Gore now, and people would be able to differentiate. A Gore and a Spear are as different as a Powerbomb and a Sit Down Powerbomb. Once again, there is no debate.

A Spear is to a gore as Finlay's Celtic Cross is to Sheamus's white noise

Absolutely not.

people have used the spear as both a strike and a grapple, hitting both ribs and guts. Before Rhyno even debut. Same with Rhyno with his gore. All the Gore is, is what Rhyno calls his spear. there is no truly a difference.

You don't understand what the move is, then, that's the problem. You think the Gore is just Rhyno's name for the Spear, you're wrong. Gore and Spear are two different moves, Rhyno can use a Spear just like Edge can use a Gore. a PROPERLY DONE (not that gif you posted) Gore is the attacker driving his shoulder into the opponent and that's the end of it. A Spear is the attacker wrapping his arm around the opponent and driving them to the mat. I don't know what you're not getting about that. This should have never been a debate, it's SO simple.

I agree with Bull. Rhyno does it both ways, so it shouldn't be classified as a different move.

same shit

grapple, strike, shoulder or wrap around it's all spur of the moment with the spear. Everyone who does the spear, which includes Rhyno have done it both ways. It all depends if they can have time to grab or just strike. Gore is just rhyno's name for his spear. Really calling a Gore a different move is trying to make Rhyno seem more badass than he is.

I didn't know so many people were ignorant of their moves.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070115145109AAxlbij

[Spear] Also known as the Shoulder block takedown. This is an attack where an attacking wrestler charges towards a standing opponent, driving their shoulder into the opponent's mid-section, tackling them, and forcing them down to the mat.

Rhino, uses a version he calls the Gore! in which he does not hold on to the opponent to tackle them; using the move as a strike that often sees the opponent flip backwards after impact.

It's the same move, with Rhino's being a modified VARIATION of that move.

Like a Jackknife Powerbomb is a variation of a Powerbomb. Hardly rocket science