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PostSubject: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:05 pm

Thoughts on all that Triple H said on the stone cold podcast if you watched it.

Do you agree with his statement that no one is truly ready to be the top guy?

Should Chyna be in the Hall of Fame?

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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:11 pm

I watched it yesterday and he spoke a lot of sense to me. He rambled a fair fucking bit, but whatever.

I agree with the whole Chyna not going into the Hall of Fame thing. I wouldn't want my kid typing her name into Google and seeing what appears. Not that she doesn't deserve to go in, because she was awesome back in the day, but it is what it is.

The top guy thing is right imo. It just happens. You can try all you want to make someone a top star, but if they don't believe in that character, it's going nowhere except out the door. That's why superstars need more input on stuff themselves so they are part of the character.

I also agreed with him on Raw being 2 hours. Fuck the 3 hours crap, it's way too long like that and not needed.
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I didn't like it. He didn't mention R-Truth once.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:21 pm

^ Funny


And I haven't seen it but as far as no one being ready to be the top star... I think Seth Rollins 100% is ready or just about ready, unless he means the next John Cena (next top babyface). You could make the case for Daniel Bryan even though he's lost momentum, and even though I personally am kinda "meh" on him.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:23 pm

@Chilly. I agree with you on all that expect for the logic of Chyna not going into the HOF. I mean look at all the current HOFers in the HOF

Abdullah the Butcher is a Hep C time bomb. Carlos Colon who tried to cover up Bruiser Brody's murder. My favorite Hulk Hogan who has a history with drugs, steroids and has a sex tape. Or your all time favorite Chilly, Shawn Michaels. All the shit he and Triple H did with DX, Shawn's drug history and the fact he was in playgirl. Jimmy Snuka who may have murder someone. Scott Hall and Jake Roberts and their past demons. Mike Tyson a convicted rapist. Stone Cold who has a history of domestic violence.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:33 pm

Agree with the Mike Tyson thing. WTF they were thinking is beyond me and he should NEVER be in the HoF. Abdullah shouldn't be in either purely based on the fact he's had fuck all to do with the WWE and is just a fat nobody lol. I know nothing of the Carlos Colon thing, so I can't comment on that.

The rest I don't agree with. Hogan was tricked with the tape thing, so it's not exactly hardcore porn that he willing took part in for some website. Having personal demons, such as Shawn Michaels' drug addiction, shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing like Chyna doing porn. It's not like Shawn is running around telling people to do what he did. If anything, by turning his life around, it's a great story for people who are having troubles in their life. Same for Scott Hall, even though he still has issues, but personal demons should never stop someone going into the HoF.

And if he go down the steroids route, there wouldn't be much point having a Hall of Fame frankly Funny

Besides, I think eventually they'll put her in the Hall of Fame, just not now. The porn gig is too recent.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:39 pm

Apart from Mike Tyson, everyone I listed do belong in the hall of fame. but if your daughter was to google each of them she could find a lot of stuff. Yeah Hogan was tricked, but it is still out there. Shawn's playgirl photos are still out there. Videos of Drunken Scott Hall and Jake Roberts are still out there. All the sexual shit DX did is still out there.

I don't think her not going into the Hall of Fame has anything to do with her porn history. IMO it's Stephanie.
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The only one that looks good enough to become a main eventer is Seth Rollins. He's the only one who's been presented as a top superstar in booking AND showed his ability, in-ring and on the mic. There's always Daniel Bryan flirting with the possibility with being thrown back into the deep end, but WWE don't seem to be investing in him again. IMO, it looks like they're using Bryan as a scapegoat for putting Reigns over because when there's the last time Bryan had a bad match?

He's a bad guy atm, but he has an exciting enough moveset to be another Jeff Hardy (and be over for his moveset) but he's also the mic skills, and could easily make the Randy Orton transition of mega heel to top face.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 2:57 pm

Now I do agree the porn stuff is too recent. But Triple H is Bullshitting if he said that is the main reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptySun Feb 08, 2015 3:28 pm

The porn thing is a bullshit issue. The real reason is there's heat between Chyna and people in WWE.

But the thing is The WWE Hall of Fame isn't supposed to honor people. It's a event for WWE to make money off of and sometimes it's political. It's why we have Drew Cary and James Dudley in there.

So when it comes to The WWE Hall of Fame I really couldn't give a fuck. The only time I ever got excited was when Bruno Sammartino came back and after that they really did nothing with him.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptyMon Feb 09, 2015 5:06 am

@Bull; I don't think it's Steph. I doubt she gives two shits about Chyna. I mean, who ended up in the better position? I don't believe Steph is bitter or anything.

She will go in, I'm sure of it, but WWE is uber kid friendly now. So once that shifts, I think she'll go in then. Also, it's a sponsor thing too. They'll see Chyna as a pornstar and won't be best pleased, whereas they see Mike Tyson as a money maker and not a convicted rapist...which is obviously bullshit, but that's the way it is this day and age.

And I'd like to point out that "All the sexual shit DX did" still isn't hardcore pornography. Yes, it's super close to a line, but that was the WWF back then as a whole (and the nineties, frankly). Even so, people were not having full blown sex and completely nude back then. WWE also doesn't care about the Playboy/Playgirl thing as they commissioned them all. They won't talk about it now sure, but they can't be all "well you posed in this" because it was their freakin' idea. Plus for whatever reason, Playboy is seen as some sort of classy thing and an achievement for people...why I don't know.

I do think WWE has a shit ton of double standards, though. If Chyna shouldn't be in, then neither should Sunny. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to route out some of her images which are closest thing to porn you probably get.

I do think she should be in, for the record. I just saying I understand the reasons why she isn't. I loved Chyna back in the day. Her stuff with Eddie, for me, was just brilliant.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptyMon Feb 09, 2015 5:44 am

I don't think she belongs in until the perception of Chyna changes. She needs a good couple of decades away from the porn in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Since no one ever made a thread about it   Since no one ever made a thread about it EmptyMon Feb 09, 2015 11:38 am

I don't know why she should go in if The Hall of Fame was legit. She's a flash in the pan compared to guys like The Rock 'N Roll Express or Lou Thesz.
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