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| Eeyen TeamMoose
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| Subject: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:37 am | |
| The Kotzebue Kid vs. Ryan Hall Apparently this match didn't happen. If either one of you want to continue to be in the fed you'll have to let me know. Right now I'm going to assume that you're both gone.
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| | | Eeyen TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:38 am | |
| Stevie Kerpowski vs. Dave Demento Dave Demento has won the shot at the NSD Championship and the 5 points via no-show. There will be a lot of that this thread. Hopefully my enforcement of the no extension rule will work in the long-term and this is the only card we see stuff like this on. - Dave Demento:
I'm not sure why you did the entrances. They're certainly not required, nor do they factor into the grading. I'm supposed to grade bell-to-bell, although I have no problem with you adding things like this to further your character development. I really liked the comedic aspects in your match with the buzzer and the banana peel... The sit-down promo mid-match was BOLD, but it fucking worked. The no-rules character you're putting together is impressive. Calling the GTS the Sleeper is a tad confusing as "The Sleeper" is a pretty standard wrestling hold I see all the time. It was pretty good. I think you're ready for a bigger challenge and I would really like to see what you're able to put together in a more hardcore environment.
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| | | Eeyen TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:38 am | |
| EG Deal vs. Rellim Strife I seen Rellim around for most of the week. I'm not sure why he didn't show, but facts remain that EG Deal has won 5 points in the tournament via no-show. - EG Deal:
Interesting pre-match interview. I would have preferred it as a segment but I guess I'm alright with it. Big ass EG Deal doing a hip toss sounds interesting. The Pokemon reference was... Eh. I just can't see a professional wrestling announcer likening the product to Pokemon. I know that you're compelled to make the match appear even so it doesn't look like you're burying your opponent, but I think you fell beyond the realm of realism with how much Rellim was in control. When I pictured big EG flipping off the fans after the cheap win I laughed. Hard. That was good as was the swerve-return as a babyface.
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| | | Eeyen TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:39 am | |
| Hitman Alex vs. Riley Williamson© - Hitman Alex:
I don't know why, but the fact you had Riley Williamson's character playing an air guitar as a taunt worked for me. One thing I've noticed is that you like to fluff up the actions by using way more words than necessary to describe them to make your match appear longer. That sort of thing doesn't really add to the match – It just takes me longer to grade. I loved the description you put on the Ankle Lock paragraph. The description on the paragraph following wasn't so great. A lot of words but they weren't cohesive... I think you should focus on being more clear. I really like your counter to the stunner. It looked great in my head. A few false-finishes at the end were exciting but I'm not the biggest fan. I think you could have done more to build up to that show-down and it would have made the ending special.
- Riley Williamson©:
Pretty decent match overall. I liked the traditional heel knocks the face down → Face does a comeback build that seemed to be a theme. The match was fairly boring to start out with but got pretty exciting near the middle and stayed that way until the end. I was legitimately surprised with how well you were able to build up the match. The ending left something to be desired, though. You ending strong with the counter from Riley on the cutter which led to a stunner-finish, but the announcers at the end seemed a little like fluff.
- The Winner:
The three main things I look for are characterization/storytelling, entertainment, and endings. You both were fairly strong in the ending department, but neither one of you had a special showing in either characterization or entertainment. Riley's match was more fluid and more believable, to me, making it more entertaining. Hitman Alex did more of the characterization/story telling than Riley did. At the end of the day there isn't a lot to decide between so I hope both of you are proud of your showings. I believe Riley Williamson just inched this one out. Alex match was longer and thus was built up with more events for progression ... but Williamson's had a natural flow about it that I just didn't see in Alex attempt. I really enjoyed the build-up and the nice, clean finish at the end. I know you guys are feuding and I'd like to see more from that if that is indeed your plan.
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| | | Eeyen TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:39 am | |
| Patrick Moore vs. Greg Samuel I don't know what happened to Mule. I won't be counting his no-show loss as a no-show loss in the tournament standings as I legitimately believe he has no idea the match happened. With that said, though, I will be removing him from the fed until he registers. Greg Samuel has posted a tremendous match and will be rewarded with five tournament points. - Greg Samuel:
The downfall of being lazy is being around while you were in XWA (and I think SIW too) and never reading your matches. You're good. You're really good. Even the simple things that I think a lot of people over-look are good. The suicide dive to start the match... playing to the crowd like that? Good stuff. Immediately contrasting that overly-face portion with an overly-heel portion where you get low-blowed? Genius. The entire match was just beautifully done. I had some skepticism about your plan to win the tournament but I honestly wouldn't doubt it. You're going to be right in the thick of things.
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:40 am | |
| Razor Xtreme vs. JHalc I'm pleased to announce that apparently this match didn't happen either. The bonus being that at least no one got cheated by a no-show in this contest. Razor and Jay have already said their peace. Frankly I don't care why you no-show... but I'm not going to accept them for long. There will be rules created to punish the no-showers. There is nothing worse to an E-Fed than no-showing.
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:41 am | |
| Evan Flare vs. Dante Cross - Anal Fever:
You had some pretty sweet standard wrestling at the start of this. Made it seem like a more realistic start to the match. The back and forth counters made it seem like two people legitimately trying to feel the other person out before doing anything big. I applaud the hell out of you for the start of this thing. The first half of this match reads almost like an MMA bout, but the commentary that you have reels the reader back in by foreshadowing what it is all leading to. Dante seems to hit a lot of signature offense once the match picks up, but I am just going to assume it is because he has a lot of signatures and whatnot in his profile. The springboard sit-out powerbomb got a legit pop out of me. That spot was sweet. The rest of the match seemed to move really quickly. It had felt like Dante had gotten the better of you at ever turn, and then there was a sudden end with you winning.
- Dante Cross:
You kick off the match with a promo basically, after the bell rings to start the match. That did not feel real at all, although it does play to your character being a total cock. I guess that is both a plus and a minus. The rest of your opening is a lot better. You make sure that the two seem pretty balanced before anyone hits any high impact offense. That's the kind of thing that makes a match easier to read, and draws people in. You each get a good deal of offense in, and then you got to the outside. The line about Dante "not wanting to win by countout" struck me as off. You are the kind of character that is all about winning, no matter what. It just didn't ring true. The build up to that moment, and what you did after, was almost enough to make me forget that all together. The split legged senton to the outside was pretty sweet, but I had to reread the bit before it in order to picture it. It seemed like you had a lot going on real fast, instead of detailing it a bit more. The stunner counter out of the dragon sleeper was pretty sweet though too. You used Kris to help you win at the end. I remembered that you used to have Dante be averse to using weapons or something like that back in SIW, so I checked and made sure you had removed that. Pretty solid heel ending to the match though.
- The Winner:
It's only fair that I tell you what I was looking for going into this match. I normally look for the best spot in the matches, and weigh them against each other. I guess this is partially like the entertainment category. It isn't so much who has more action, as much as it is whose actions were better overall. Here it was going to be Dante's split legged senton to the outside and then the stunner counter to the sleeper against Ian's springboard powerbomb that came out of nowhere. To me, Ian's was better at painting a picture of the high point in the match.
Another thing that I look for is the build up. Dante, as I mentioned, you kind of shit your pants with the whole promo after the bell rang. If you had something to say, leading into your match, why not do a segment or something? It doesn't ring true to cut a promo after the opening bell. After that though, you had a good bit of chain wrestling where the two just felt each other out. You made sure to keep it balanced with both guys being about the same size. Ian, you used the commentary, alongside the match, to really push what you wanted the reader to notice. The two did nothing but counter one another for half the match, really tried to find an opening they could exploit. In the end, I think it was the commentary that really edged me towards Ian here. The way you made it more than just the two being the same size, and also added that dimension of the characters just playing a chess game with each other. I feel like Ian's match was described better, but on the other hand, Dante's match seemed to have a lot more action in it. I am having trouble weighing one against the other.
The finishes were about equal too. Ian's came much too fast, in my opinion. Dante's, on the other hand, seemed the same, to some extent, but was predictable for a heel. I think it is honestly going to come down to one factor: Kris Cross. Ian, you used him after the bell, as Dante trying to gain an advantage, but you kept the chess game going by Evan being able to make a quick, and planned, escape. Dante, you had him come in and do the heel thing, bring a weapon, and then wake the ref after the damage was done.
After rereading these matches twice, and making sure I covered all the big complaints or compliments in my breakdown for you two. I have used those individual breakdowns to throw as much as I can into this category. In the end, I think that Dante had more action. I also think that Ian had better quality in the action that he did have. Not a lot of complaints either way, and a whole lot of compliments to go around.
I think Anal Fever takes this one though. You guys should turn this into a series of matches though, as it really could have gone either way.
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:42 am | |
| TK vs. Caleb Spires I sort of seen something like this coming with this match. "dream matches" don't often go well in E-Feds. TK is always welcome to fed in this XWA. Caleb Spires won the 5 points via no-show. - Caleb Spires:
As I expected, a pretty darn good match from Caleb Spires. Exceptional storytelling was on display, but there were parts that didn't really add up. TK was supposed to be in a similar situation as you with Smoke Xtreme not liking that he was back with the company... Smoke wanted you two to kill each other, which you did, but I guess that part of the story wasn't communicated to you or there was a miscommunication or something. That little error aside I thought the match was brilliant. You used Smoke Xtreme to your advantage and I think the build-up to the match was done brilliantly.
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:42 am | |
| Dominik Diveraz vs. Drake Dysfunction© Dominik has won the Intercontinental Championship via no-show. Drake and I have been in contact and there will be a rematch for the Intercontinental Championship soon. Maybe on Vendetta 55 or maybe not. I haven't decided yet. Anyways, Dominik has won the Intercontinental Championship and the 5 tournament points via no-show. - Dominik Diveraz:
You weren't kidding when you said it wasn't your best effort. For the second straight week I think you've has the worst winning match. I haven't gotten the chance to read a good match from you, but I'm eagerly hoping that opportunity comes soon. I think the match started strong, but some time during your second paragraph you just decided it wasn't going to happen. I've been there.
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| | | JOKER TeamJoker
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| Subject: Re: Revolutionary Wars 5 Grades Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:41 pm | |
| Thank you to all of you that showed. Not the greatest showing for the card, but we had some pretty great performances from the people that did show.
We are putting together a card for Vendetta as we speak, and you should see it posted either later tonight or tomorrow. If you keep trusting us, we won't let you down. |
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