And the point of that is? Yeah its Hogan putting warrior in a double wrist lock.

if you honestly hate it so much, why have you all been talking about it so much? If anything you should be ignoring it like you normally would anything with TNA.

Why was there no angle at the end? Was this supposed to be the blow off match between The Hardys and The Decay?

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

if you honestly hate it so much, why have you all been talking about it so much? If anything you should be ignoring it like you normally would anything with TNA.

Doing shit like this isn't good for TNA. You say I hate TNA but maybe it's really the reverse. I care so much about TNA that when they did good shows I gave them money.

MooseNugget wrote:

Why was there no angle at the end? Was this supposed to be the blow off match between The Hardys and The Decay?

pretty much put a end to that feud, The one with the boys who Helms use to mange. The DCC is still in a feud with the Broken Hardy's so they are probably going to wait to do something else with them.

MooseNugget wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

if you honestly hate it so much, why have you all been talking about it so much? If anything you should be ignoring it like you normally would anything with TNA.

Doing shit like this isn't good for TNA. You say I hate TNA but maybe it's really the reverse. I care so much about TNA that when they did good shows I gave them money.

TNA is at state where anything is pretty much needed. When there is ever a broken thing happening, TNA gets talked about.

TNA is talked about all the time.

"Is it dead yet?"

"Who is Dixie going to sell it too?"

"TNA not paying wrestlers again."

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

if you honestly hate it so much, why have you all been talking about it so much? If anything you should be ignoring it like you normally would anything with TNA.

People talk about things, regardless of whether they like them or not, especially things that get a lot of attention. This is a wrestling forum. Of course the more known stuff happening in wrestling will be discussed by anyone who discusses wrestling. People aren't expected to just not talk about things if they dislike those things. Then debates wouldn't exist.

I just don't, at all, get the appeal to this whole thing. I get what the appeal is supposed to be, but I don't see it, myself. I don't mind the occasional bit of unrealistic or even stupid comedy in wrestling, but not when that's just everything a feud/storyline is doing, especially as over the top as this is and given the fact that pretty much everyone just associates TNA with this and bankruptcy now.

This is the 4th time something like this happened in TNA and it's only been half a year. They probably killed whatever drawing power these Hardy segments had.

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

MooseNugget wrote:

This is the 4th time something like this happened in TNA and it's only been half a year. They probably killed whatever drawing power these Hardy segments had.

It seems like everytime they do one of these, Matt is getting booked more and more.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it

ROH probably gets higher ratings than TNA and LU combined. Also ROH is able to charge people to go to their shows.

The Deletions were not about telling a story. It's barkyard wrestling but with a budget and national TV exposure.

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

MooseNugget wrote:

This is the 4th time something like this happened in TNA and it's only been half a year. They probably killed whatever drawing power these Hardy segments had.

It seems like everytime they do one of these, Matt is getting booked more and more.

Talk about indy sleaze.

MooseNugget wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it

ROH probably gets higher ratings than TNA and LU combined. Also ROH is able to charge people to go to their shows.

The Deletions were not about telling a story. It's barkyard wrestling but with a budget and national TV exposure.

Yes they were telling stories.

Final Deletion- Matt wanted to be the soul owner of the hardy brand

2nd one to Final War- Was the feud with decay

TND- Was about all the feuds in TNA, but mostly the tag teams the hardy's had been feuding with.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

I'm not seeing your point, here.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

Star Wars films aren't real either. George Lucas never said fuck it and filmed shit with his kid in the back yard to save money.

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

I'm not seeing your point, here.

my point here is that Pro wrestling...just isn't about the Wrestling. It's about characters, its about story, it's about journeys. All I see in wrestling today is the same old shit over and over.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

MooseNugget wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it

ROH probably gets higher ratings than TNA and LU combined. Also ROH is able to charge people to go to their shows.

The Deletions were not about telling a story. It's barkyard wrestling but with a budget and national TV exposure.

Yes they were telling stories.

Final Deletion- Matt wanted to be the soul owner of the hardy brand

2nd one to Final War- Was the feud with decay

TND- Was about all the feuds in TNA, but mostly the tag teams the hardy's had been feuding with.

A story has to be told in the ring as well. Why should I gave a shit about guys running around in Matt Hardy's backyard in something that's obviously fake.

MooseNugget wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

Star Wars films aren't real either. George Lucas never said fuck it and filmed shit with his kid in the back yard to save money.

SO What if it's taking place in the backyard

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

I'm not seeing your point, here.

my point here is that Pro wrestling...just isn't about the Wrestling. It's about characters, its about story, it's about journeys. All I see in wrestling today is the same old shit over and over.

Pro Wrestling is also supposed to be a simulated sport.

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

SO What if it's taking place in the backyard

Means TNA can't sell tickets to this shit.

WrestleMania sold out.

Final Battle sold out.

Tens of thousands of people will be at Wrestle Kingdom.

0 people bought tickets to see Total Nonstop Deletion.

MooseNugget wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

Snoope Fiasco wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

most pro wrestling these days is so lame/mediocre/shit. Stuff like what the Hardy's are doing, stuff that Lucha Underground is doing, Are entertaining as hell. You can take the sporty shit and shove it, because that shits boring. You wanna mock cartoony wrestling, but you know what Cartoony wrestling is fucking awesome. WWE bores the piss out of me. ROH bores the piss out of me. NJPW...surprisingly doesn't, but I think it just the culture that it's in.

God forbid wrestling is actually about ... y'know, wrestling.

You do know it's not a real sport? Yeah yeah the impact of the moves hurt, they risk shit blah blah blah...but it's scripted...they aren't really trying to hurt each other.

I'm not seeing your point, here.

my point here is that Pro wrestling...just isn't about the Wrestling. It's about characters, its about story, it's about journeys. All I see in wrestling today is the same old shit over and over.

Pro Wrestling is also supposed to be a simulated sport.

Well that Simulated Sport aspect has taken over too much and it has made it become boring. There needs to be a balance between the in ring work and the story telling.

MooseNugget wrote:

The Goldish of Bergs wrote:

SO What if it's taking place in the backyard

Means TNA can't sell tickets to this shit.

WrestleMania sold out.

Final Battle sold out.

Tens of thousands of people will be at Wrestle Kingdom.

0 people bought tickets to see Total Nonstop Deletion.

Total Nonstop Deletion isn't a PPV