Alfredo has a recap of this week’s Tercera Caida, including Veneno being Veneno and Fantasma talking about his problems with CMLL.  If you want a lot more detail on the later, you really ought to check out Fantasma’s after the show chat with the hosts. Fantasma does not hold back much in that, and it’s a 17 minute video that probably could’ve gone 30. (There are a couple edits, so maybe it did!) Rob called it a lucha libre shoot interview and it was pretty much as close as you’re going to get

You’re (always) better watching yourself and not relying on me to translate conversations, but pieces of note:

CMLL morale is generally bad – they have no hope of advancing because the office doesn’t even watch the matches and the people running the shows leave before they’re over.

Lots of CMLL people say they want to jump, but don’t have the guts to do it when it comes to it.

CMLL lets people go to the ring drunk or high.

Very critical of a certain wrestler going from opening matches to main events over night, skipping over a lot of deserving person, but it helps to be someone’s “brother”. (Fantasma said it in quotes, more or less.)

Points at favoritism when it comes to Japan/FantasticaMania bookings. Felt CMLL had Fantasma work with all the Japanese wrestlers when they came in and the Japanese guys always liked him, and the CMLL guys would always tell him he’d be going but it’d turn out someone else would go.

Praise for many people he now gets to work with in AAA. (He’s the mystery guy in Tonala, and also excited for the Queretaro match.)

CMLL opening matches can’t touch AAA opening matches.

On one of those points: Now that the Anniversary show is long past, the Gran Guerrero push Fantasma is refereeing to really sticks out as a horrible case of nepotism. It made a little sense to introduce and push him hard if CMLL was laying the groundwork for some Guerrero Switch during an Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero mask match, but that was never even teased as happening and now that mask match is TBD. Gran Guerrero is arguably the second worst rudo being pushed near the top (similar nepotism champion Pierroth has first placed locked up), and unarguably not at the level of Euforia & Niebla Roja, guys who’s spots he’s taking. Gran Guerrero isn’t hopeless, but he’s nowhere near ready for the spot they’ve put him in, doesn’t help his team, doesn’t help his opponents look good, doesn’t have any particular charisma or any other attribute to help him stand out. (In this case, even Mistico II is better, because they can at least try to the ‘special charisma’ case. Gran Guerrero is just a guy.) There’s absolutely no reason Gran Guerrero should be in the spot he’s in besides he’s the “brother” of a guy who has powerand gets to do whatever he wants. It’s not good for CMLL, it’s not good for the other luchadors and it’s not good for the fans, but none of those things matter much to the people in charge.

The bit about people in charge leaving before shows are over and no one watching the matches is a pretty strong shot at CMLL (but also one that appears to be true.) Luchadors going to the ring in no condition is not news if you see certain main events (and people who get brought back time after time), but there usually an omerta-like silence in Mexico about drug and alcohol usage near lucha libre. It stands out when luchadors are actually willing to talk about it.

I don’t know if there will be a lot of blow back about this; none of the CMLL office use the internet, and this part of the interview only aired on the internet. Some will still get back to them, but CMLL’s pretty unaffected by criticism – even this past week, Ultimo Guerrero appeared in SuperLuchas critical of people chanting fraude for the Anniversary show because the rules were announced but not addressing the underlining problem which led to that unhappiness.

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