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PostSubject: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:50 am

All John Cena has done for the past half year is lose every big match he's been involved in. Why am I supposed to care if he wrestles Undertaker at WrestleMania?

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:40 am

This isn't really a match that's about who actually wins. Either, a guy who's at his last match or close wins, after his streak was already broken (and then he lost another time) or Cena wins when he's also nearing the end of his time as an active wrestler. The match is more-so about the whole "dream match" scenario, which is Cena vs. Taker at WM. It really should've been done a long time ago because, now, it doesn't have nearly as much weight as it could've. I can understand people being excited about it, because it still kinda has that dream match vibe, but I also definitely understand people not being excited. At best, in terms of the result, it can give Cena a big win to attempt to make up a little bit for all the losing he's been doing, so his other big matches for this year feel more like he could win, rather than everyone knowing he's just there to put the younger talent over, similarly to when Jericho beat AJ at WM32. So, that's something, I suppose.

Of course, the match itself probably won't be anything great. Cena can still go, absolutely. Taker, not so much. It's definitely more of a WM attraction match than something that's actually meant to be a good wrestling match. It'll probably be really cool for the people in attendance to witness it live.

I did actually hear a rumor that Rey Mysterio is gonna face Cena at WM. From what I understand, he's signed to NJPW, but they might allow him to do a one-off, which is what it's meant to be, according to the rumor. I think the Taker match is much more likely and would have a much bigger feel to it, though the Rey match would be the better match. Rey can still go, at least better than Taker. They also had a really great match (Cena and Rey, that is) when Punk did his leaving storyline and they had to crown a new champion, on RAW. The fact that that was now 7 years ago fucks with me.
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:26 pm

They had their chance YEARS ago. Honestly, Taker should not be wrestling anymore. He needs to walk away. Mysterio wouldn't be a bad choice. I was thinking that Braun Strowman would be a good opponent for him. They wouldn't have a great match, but it would be entertaining, and Strowman would finally be able to win a big match (Especially since I'm willing to bet that him and Reigns will be feuding for the title).
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:27 pm

I personally think they're doing it at a perfect time... towards the end of their careers. Earlier on they were used to give a big match at WrestleMania to the rising stars and current established main eventers of the company.

People thought Cena should've been the one to end the streak... that would've been abysmal. clown WWE is doing it right good job

Now they're past their prime (Undertaker well past his prime) so it's time to give that dream match that tons of people wanted for some reason (I was never crazy about the idea of Cena vs. Taker at WM anyway). Despite them being older it's still a big draw match between two of the biggest names in wrestling history.

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:29 pm

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Cena can still go, absolutely.
Cena could never go in the first place clown

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:00 am

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@Giggity Gopher wrote:
Cena can still go, absolutely.
Cena could never go in the first place clown
This is why no one takes your opinions seriously.
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:05 am

I'm not a fan of having a match where winning it and losing it means nothing. It'd be different it WWE made some kind of personal issue between the two.

WWE has several weeks to rectify this and maybe make a story fit into this that makes sense. But I doubt they'll do a good job of it.

And yeah this is a dream match but I'm also not interested in seeing Undertaker wrestle ever again. I thought it was over when he lost to Roman Reigns.

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:31 am

And why is he getting another World Title match at Fastlane? All he's been doing is losing his big matches.

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:45 pm

And why is AJ Styles being treated like an afterthought on his own brand? They could've had Nakamura put his match at Wrestlemania on the line, then you have two matches to advertise, instead of one convoluted mess of a match. I thought the whole point of the storyline is Cena is at a loss because he's been losing his big matches, then you have him beat the WWE Champion? It's like they have zero clue what they want to build.

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And why is he getting another World Title match at Fastlane? All he's been doing is losing his big matches.

I think the main point of this whole thing is to make Cena "desperate". He's probably gonna hit an AA on somebody at Fast Lane, then he'll get thrown out of the ring and AJ will pick up the pin. Or maybe he'll even take the pin.

I know this is off topic, but smackdown seems so bad lately. I only really watch the PPVs, but the storylines are so stupid. I'm sick of the Bryan/McMahon shit. I like Shane, but I don't wanna see him in a match at Mania. Their roster is huge, stop giving that spot to him.
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:48 pm

It reminds me a bit of when Shawn Michaels became JBL's lackey because he "lost all of his money". It's supposed to build sympathy, but it's just not believable. We all know Cena is going to Wrestlemania. You have a ten hour show, everybody is gonna fucking be on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:15 pm

After Shane and AJ had the match of the night last year, I'm honestly okay with him wrestling at Mania. I don't think he should have one of the top matches each year, but I like seeing him wrestle there.

I haven't really been watching the weekly shows, just the PPVs/NXT specials, but I've heard RAW has been getting better while SmackDown has been getting worse. The whole "Cena is desperate to get a match at WM" thing is really dumb. As Rellim said, it's a huge show, where most of the wrestlers get to be on. Plus, it's Cena. It's just not believable that they wouldn't have Cena in a match at WM if he's available. I don't really mind him being in the Fastlane match too much, as long as AJ wins (because we gotta have that AJ/Shinsuke WrestleKingdom rematch), but I wish they weren't going with this storyline idea. Or, at least, I wish they played it a bit differently. Like, instead of Cena acting like he won't be booked at Mania, focus more-so on how the spotlight is on the newer guys, instead of him, and he wants to get a big-time match-up at the show (as opposed to just wanting any match) to show that he's still a big player in the company.
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:53 pm

It'll be whatever. I don't have a problem with it but I don't care about it. I don\'t know
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:25 pm

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Cena can still go, absolutely.
Cena could never go in the first place clown
This is why no one takes your opinions seriously.
This is the problem with modern day smarks. They make Cena out to be something he's nowhere near in talent. clown

Roman Reigns is absolutely the better wrestler and he keeps improving on the mic every day. People get fooled with Cena because of the pops from women & children and the fact Vince shoved him down everyone's throats for a decade to solidify his kayfabe status among the company that some fans bought into over time.

Reigns will probably go through the same process at this rate but at least he's actually more talented. Thirsty Mofos

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:59 pm

Mr. Smurf wrote:
@Giggity Gopher wrote:
Mr. Smurf wrote:
@Giggity Gopher wrote:
Cena can still go, absolutely.
Cena could never go in the first place clown
This is why no one takes your opinions seriously.
This is the problem with modern day smarks. They make Cena out to be something he's nowhere near in talent. clown

Roman Reigns is absolutely the better wrestler and he keeps improving on the mic every day. People get fooled with Cena because of the pops from women & children and the fact Vince shoved him down everyone's throats for a decade to solidify his kayfabe status among the company that some fans bought into over time.

Reigns will probably go through the same process at this rate but at least he's actually more talented. Thirsty Mofos
So many people hated Cena because of him being shoved down everyone's throats, just like they do with Roman now. The only real difference is that when it was happening to Cena, most people just blindly acted like he can't wrestle because he was being over-used and it became popular to hate him, whereas a lot of people will admit that Roman is a good wrestler, but they hate the way he's booked. Eventually, people started to accept the fact that Cena is actually a good wrestler, instead of just jumping on the Cena hate bandwagon. At least, people with any understanding of wrestling and not the type of smarks stuck in 2007. Cena isn't the best wrestler in the company. He's up there among the best when it comes to storytelling, but from an in-ring action perspective, he's not the best. He's still very good, regardless, and he's had plenty of amazing matches to prove that. For a recent-ish example, just look at his reign as United States Champion. The fact of the matter is continuing to act like Cena isn't a good wrestler, by this point, is ludicrous.

And I don't know why you brought up Roman in the first place. He has nothing to do with this, although I also think he's a very good wrestler and it upsets me that the WWE is making everyone hate him so much inadvertently by trying to shove him down everyone's throats.
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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:22 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:47 am

Well that was really weird and unnecessary.

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PostSubject: Re: Am I the only one who doesn't care about John Cena vs. Undertaker?   Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:36 pm

Well that was well worth it.

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