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PostSubject: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:40 am



IWGP Heavyweight Title
Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. Tetsuya Naito

IWGP United States Heavyweight Title
No Disqualification Match
Kenny Omega (c) vs. Chris Jericho

IWGP Intercontinental Title
Hiroshi Tanahashi (c) vs. Jay White

IWGP Junior Heavyweight Title
Marty Scurll (c) vs. Hiromu Takahashi vs. KUSHIDA vs. Will Ospreay

NEVER Openweight Title
Hair vs. Hair Death Match
Minoru Suzuki (c) vs. Hirooki Goto

IWGP Tag Team Title
Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer) (c) vs. Los Ingobernables de Japon (EVIL & SANADA)

Cody vs. Kota Ibushi

NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Title
Gauntlet Match
BULLET CLUB (Bad Luck Fale, Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa) (c) vs. CHAOS (Beretta, Tomohiro Ishii & Toru Yano) vs. Juice Robinson, Ryusuke Taguchi & Togi Makabe vs. Suzuki-gun (Taichi, Takashi Iizuka & Zack Sabre Jr.) vs. War Machine (Hanson & Raymond Rowe) & Michael Elgin

IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Title
Roppongi 3K (SHO & YOH) (c) vs. Young Bucks (Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson)

New Japan Rambo

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:33 pm

I haven't been this excited for a show in a long time. Top to bottom this is a great card. My only gripe is Ishii not being in a singles match, he's one of my favorites in New Japan, but whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:35 pm

Also, here's a prediction: Jericho/Omega will have a solid match (Nothing out of this world, but entertaining), but all the hardcore fans will trash it no matter what.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:20 am

I stayed up to watch Minoru Suzuki vs. Hirooki Goto. Great story telling. No BS when it came to the stipulation. That made me very happy.

Best match so far has been Cody vs. Ibushi.

I gotta go to work tomorrow so I'm going to bed. Goodnight.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:06 am

I actually managed to stay up for the whole thing. Wow, that was an incredible show. Jericho/Omega exceeded my expectations and Okada/Naito was phenomenal. There wasn't a single bad match on this card. Now, time for bed. Funny
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:08 pm

Match ratings off the top of my head

New Japan Rumble: Awful, completely awful. -1*
Bucks/RPG3K: ****1/4
Tag Gauntlet: **
Cody/Ibushi: ****
KES/LIJ: ***1/4
Goto/Suzuki: ****
Jr. 4-way: ****1/2
Tana/White: ***3/4
Kenny/Jericho: *****
Okada/Naito: ****3/4
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:30 pm

honestly should the rumble even count for the show as a whole. It's just the preshow and they never take it serious. Plus it only had one reason this year, that was for Masahito Kakihara come back after battling cancer.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:10 am

Oh, definitely. It doesn't take away from the show as a whole at all. I'm just saying it sucked ass and you shouldn't watch it. Funny
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:36 am

James Ellsworth and Cheeseburger should beat the Young Bucks for the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Titles
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:47 am

https://www.f4wonline.com/japan/njpw-wrestle-kingdom-12-draws-34995-paid-tokyo-dome-249246

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that there was 34,995 paying fans at Wrestling Kingdom. That's the biggest crowd since 2015.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:57 pm

Funny how that "old" Chris Jericho was in consider MOTN. ????

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:01 pm

Gobba-Gulak wrote:
Funny how that "old" Chris Jericho was in consider MOTN. ????
I didn't see the match yet but I saw some people give it like 3 stars. I know Meltzer liked it.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:42 pm

Most people I've seen gave it a perfect rating and called it MotN.

I don't agree on either. I thought it was very good, but I'd say 4.25/4.5, not quite a 5 or even 4.75. The match of the night, for me personally, was the four-way.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:04 pm

I don’t think it was MoTN either. I liked the match, but it isn’t something I’d watch over. Personally, other than the fatal 4 way, I really enjoyed the Suzuki-Goto match the most. I enjoyed the storytelling.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:07 pm

I thought Okada vs Naito was boring a’f until like the end too.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:19 pm

@Dragon Fx wrote:
I don’t think it was MoTN either. I liked the match, but it isn’t something I’d watch over. Personally, other than the fatal 4 way, I really enjoyed the Suzuki-Goto match the most. I enjoyed the storytelling.
I saw some guy in an article on a site called Fightful give Omega/Jericho a perfect 10/10, but then gave Suzuki-Goto a 5.75/10. clown That match was really good.

I also really enjoyed the opening tag match. Matt's injury selling in that was amazing and it had really good storytelling (which people continue to say the Bucks can't do, despite matches like this).

One of the MVPs for me was Don Callis, though. "Michael Jordan was a mark" is my favorite commentary line of the year, so far. Granted, we're a week into the year, but still.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:23 pm

Suzuki is a badass and proves that Heels are still needed in 2018. Jericho vs Omega imo was the MOTN, but the Fatal Fourway and The Goto/Suzuki matches are really close 2nds. Naito vs Okada was good, but out of the four I have talked about it was the weakest. Tho like other people i don't mind Okada keeping the belt. Building Aura and a legacy around the reign and when someone finally dethrones him it will make that person huge. I can't think of a single bad match on the card, even the NJPW Rumble. Yeah it is pointless, but that ending is very meaningful to me since I have lost a lot of family members to cancer and seeing Kakihara's come back is something I can't hate on.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:27 pm

if any match was weak, at least to the big money matches it be Jay White vs Hiroshi Tanahashi. It wasn't bad, but nothing to write home about. A typical Tanahashi match.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:48 pm

Gobba-Gulak wrote:
if any match was weak, at least to the big money matches it be Jay White vs Hiroshi Tanahashi. It wasn't bad, but nothing to write home about. A typical Tanahashi match.
I haven't seen it yet but I don't expect much out of Tanahashi right now. I wouldn't say he's in a bad way but he's certainly not 100%.

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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:33 am

Tanahashi is really banged up rn, but I don't think Jay White was the right opponent for him at that spot either.

The match got no reaction #FeelTheBern
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PostSubject: Re: Wrestle Kingdom 12   Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:37 am

I'm reading the new Wrestling Observer Newsletter. New Japan World's sub count went up about 35,00 for this show bringing it to near or maybe above 100,000 current subscribers. New Japan isn't counting on most of those people to continue their into February.

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