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PostSubject: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:15 pm

Bobby Roode is just a entrance now and stuck in a boring ass feud with Ziggler and sucks as a babyface

Nakamura Lost to Jinder Mahal both at Summerslam and Hell in the Cell

Finn has been stuck in one of the worse feuds of the year with Bray, had a kick ass match with AJ, but only to lose to the Future Mayor Knox County Tennessee the next night.

Bayley, Sasha are being booked into Limbo.

The only top Star of NXT (apart from Seth, but those first couple of months of NXT it was still had the FCW feeling to it and Seth wasn't around the golden era of NXT) Has Been Samoa Joe

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:16 pm

Guess you can count Owens too, but he hasn't been used to his full potential and probably never will by WWE

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:12 pm

Former NXT champion Big E? Okay he probably wouldn't hang with the names right now and isn't an Indy boy, but considering he's won multiple championships, been in some match of the nights and is arguably one of WWE's untouchables because of his marketing appeal, I would say he's done alright. If you're going to count Kevin Owens on the list, you may as well include Big E since he only spent 20 days less on NXT.

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:56 pm

Owens was Universal Champion and in one of the best storylines of 2016 with Jericho. I'd say he's doing well. Seth was NXT Champion, so I'd absolutely count him, even if it "felt more like FCW". Big E, as Sunami mentioned, should count. He's never been a world champ on the main roster, but it's clear he loves being a part of the New Day and it was the most over thing on WWE television for months (and has produced many great tag matches). Sasha's already a 4-time Women's Champion on the main roster and, for the most part, has been a centerpiece of it ever since she broke away from Team B.A.D. She's been involved in some feuds no one really cares about (such as with Alicia Fox), but she's still represented as a top competitor in the division. Bayley, I'll give you, because they ruined the fuck out of her.

Then there's Charlotte. I don't think it needs to be argued that she's done very well on the main roster. Becky was kind of the least-main event of the four horsewomen in NXT, but she's done pretty well on the main roster, she just got off to a slow start.

Finn Balor literally won the Universal Championship as soon as he debuted. An injury is what fucked him, not being promoted to the main roster. After returning, he hasn't quite been where he should be, but I'd definitely say it's too soon to right his main roster run off since he spent most of it injured, so far.

Neville, prior to WWE's odd push of Enzo, was being used amazingly as Cruiserweight Champion. That was a role that fit him very well. Before the heel turn, he was definitely not being used well enough, but the heel turn and Cruiserweight title reign were perfect.

Bobby Roode, like Finn (even more-so), hasn't been up long enough to tell how he's gonna do. He's not off to a great start and turning him face was definitely not a good idea, but we have to wait and see what happens with him.

Sami has been used horribly for a while. This heel turn might finally get him where he deserves to be, but that's another thing we gotta wait to see.

Shinsuke getting two WHC matches (regardless of losing them) not long after being brought up is not a bad thing. He also went clean over Cena, which is big.

Who else is there? Bo Dallas was a main eventer in NXT, but he shouldn't have been. He's been used much more appropriately on the main roster.
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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:00 pm

Owens was booked terrible as a champion. Him and Jericho yes was awesome but he was a terrible reign. Again he isn't the worse used but he can be used a lot better.

Nakamura can beat Orton and Cena all he wants. He still lost to Jinder fucking Mahal. That is istant momentum killer.

Sasha maybe a four times women's champion but she has had short ass reigns and for the past few months since losing the belt has done nothing

Neville was a great here champion but he has been unhappy since he won the damn thing. They took his wrestlemania match off the DVD release and that was meant to be a big pay day


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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:02 pm

Being champion and a few big wins maybe be great but if their reigns have no meaning and they can follow up with the big match wins, it doesn't matter

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:05 pm

With Bobby first impressions are key. If they turn him heel he might rebound but right now isn't starting off good

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:09 pm

Not counting big e because he is in the same class as Seth. He was in Nxt when it was just FCW with a new name

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:20 pm

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Owens was booked terrible as a champion. Him and Jericho yes was awesome but he was a terrible reign. Again he isn't the worse used but he can be used a lot better.

Nakamura can beat Orton and Cena all he wants. He still lost to Jinder fucking Mahal. That is istant momentum killer.

Sasha maybe a four times women's champion but she has had short ass reigns and for the past few months since losing the belt has done nothing

Neville was a great here champion but he has been unhappy since he won the damn thing. They took his wrestlemania match off the DVD release and that was meant to be a big pay day

I fail to see how it's an instant momentum killer to lose to the top champion on the brand. It's someone who used to be a jobber, yes, but people need to stop acting like that matters now. Jinder is booked to be a champion. He's supposed to be the top guy on the brand. It's not a matter of the people he beats looking weak, it's a matter of him looking stronger.

And I said why I think Seth should be counted. Same thing goes for Big E. NXT is NXT.
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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:55 pm

Roode should've made his debut as a heel. Shaking Head Idk how he's being used now but as long as they turn him soon I think the situation can still be fixed.

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:23 pm

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Owens was booked terrible as a champion. Him and Jericho yes was awesome but he was a terrible reign. Again he isn't the worse used but he can be used a lot better.

Nakamura can beat Orton and Cena all he wants. He still lost to Jinder fucking Mahal. That is istant momentum killer.

Sasha maybe a four times women's champion but she has had short ass reigns and for the past few months since losing the belt has done nothing

Neville was a great here champion but he has been unhappy since he won the damn thing. They took his wrestlemania match off the DVD release and that was meant to be a big pay day

I fail to see how it's an instant momentum killer to lose to the top champion on the brand. It's someone who used to be a jobber, yes, but people need to stop acting like that matters now. Jinder is booked to be a champion. He's supposed to be the top guy on the brand. It's not a matter of the people he beats looking weak, it's a matter of him looking stronger.

And I said why I think Seth should be counted. Same thing goes for Big E. NXT is NXT.

Just because he is champion doesn't automatically remove the fact Jinder has only a 30% win rate. It be like if WWE put the fucking title on the Brooklyn Brawler in 2001 and have Chris Jericho lose to him twice in a row after Chris beat both Stone Cold and The Rock cleanly. If Nakamura lost to someone like Orton, Owens, or someone on their level, than yes it wouldn't make Nakamura look bad. But losing to Jinder...I don't care if you put the fucking belt on him, he is was and most likely will be again after those two fucking tour dates Vince has been jacking off over, a jobber. A lot of people still see him as that and if you lose to someone who lost to a midget bull cleanly, than how can you take that person seriously ever? You can put a make up on a pig but it is still a pig.

You can count him if you want, but NXT for those first few months imo was still just FCW. NXT didn't get it's own identity until Finn's reign. Seth, Big E, Bo, and even Neville I consider FCWNXT

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:45 pm

but lets bunch up all the NXT people on the current main roster

Bo- A jobber who once in awhile gets a slight push that goes nowhere

Tyler Breeze- Was dead in the water for years until the fashion Police started to catch on

Big E- New Day saved him, Woods, and Kofi but before that he was doing nothing expect being fed to Rusev

Rusev- Had monster momentum until his feud with Cena and he has been struggling ever since. He catches fire here and there just to be fed to someone like Cena and now Orton

Viktor and Konnor- Longest Reigning Tag Team champions in NXT, was booked with a Road Warrior knock off gimmick and have been dead ever since

Finn- He returned after WM but it took them forever to finally put him in a program. What have been his biggest wins since returning? Bray, everyone has beaten Bray by this point

Bray- We all know how badly they fucked Bray

Kevin Owens- Probably one of the more successful NXT guys right now but you know damn well he could be doing more and should have been doing more

Nakamura- Lost to Jinder nuff said

Bobby Roode- Stuck in a babyface role when he should be heel and is feuding with someone a lot of people stop giving a fuck about

Joe- Probably the best handled guy so far, has been protected for now

Sami- Catches fire off and on, but barely if ever featured. Before the heel turn he had been doing nothing for months

Sasha- She maybe a four times women's champion but she had been made to look like a weak champion everytime she gets it. She can't defend it at all. Right now all her momentum is dead

Bayley- We agree on it so no need to go on

Neville- Hadn't been doing shit before he turned heel. Yes his heel run was awesome, but WWE has cut the balls off the cruiserweight Division since it came back. Neville walking out makes it Clear Neville didn't like how he as been handle

Enzo and Cas- the most over tag team in NXT ever. WWE splits them up a year later after debuting on the main roster. They did nothing with them what so ever as a team. Enzo right now is doing good for himself and actually makes for a great heel undeserving champion  

American Alpha- they don't see the talent in Chad and Jordan is stuck with a gimmick of death


All of these people should be the current top guys and Gals. These are the people WWE should be building around. But EVerytime Vince gets his hands on them, they become worse than where they are at. With the Talk of More Wrestlers looking to exit WWE, you can probably understand why

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:57 pm

And Before anyone starts on me always finding reasons to bitch, just look what is going around with WWE. People aren't showing up at events, sub numbers to the WWE network haven't improved, TV ratings are in the shitter and yes those still fucking matter. When something pisses me off I am going to express it because I know they can be doing a hell of a lot better. they have probably one of the most talented pool of wrestlers they have ever had and they are letting gold slip through their hands. Thats what pisses me off. Vince is handed Gold and he turns it into Shit.

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:35 am

It sounds like you are nitpicking if you're trying to find negatives in every single graduate from NXT. The OP was about NXT MAIN EVENTERS but somehow Tyler Breeze, American Alpha and Rusev are getting brought into the discussion.

Discrediting Big E just because he doesn't fit the bill as a roster member during the Indy influx of NXT. Same with Rollins. I notice you haven't mentioned a certain Samoan super man called Roman Reigns.

The main roster has given its chances to those from NXT. Elias has been protected well and better received than he was in NXT, Kalisto had no business outside of the tag team division in NXT,.

You can't discredit someone just because they've found something to get them over either. If anything NXT has had more successful graduates than FCW.

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:53 am

This just shows how you push and present someone matters. TNA took WWE job guy Derek Bateman and turned him into the main eventer.

Cody went from a joke to a star.

The head writers don't know how to make stars.

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:57 am

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It sounds like you are nitpicking if you're trying to find negatives in every single graduate from NXT.  The OP was about NXT MAIN EVENTERS but somehow Tyler Breeze, American Alpha and Rusev are getting brought into the discussion.

Discrediting Big E just because he doesn't fit the bill as a roster member during the Indy influx of NXT. Same with Rollins. I notice you haven't mentioned a certain Samoan super man called Roman Reigns.

The main roster has given its chances to those from NXT. Elias has been protected well and better received than he was in NXT, Kalisto had no business outside of the tag team division in NXT,.

You can't discredit someone just because they've found something to get them over either. If anything NXT has had more successful graduates than FCW.



1. Cause it not just the main eventers who getting screwed, a lot of the mid card acts do as well so might as well bring them in.

2. The guy who was in NXT for a Month, who did nothing whatsoever in NXT?

3. Right now Elias is being protected but give it a few more months and see where what happens. I hope for the best, but it won't

4. I am not discrediting anyone, when did I do that? Some are lucky yes, Joe is a badass, Owens is a great talker and badass. Tyler found the fashion Police. I am not Discrediting them whatso ever they are the lucky ones.

What I am getting at is whenever these NXT stars get to the main roster, yes they have a few weeks of momentum and than it goes all to hell. The 50/50 booking which isn't just the NXT problem but the whole fucking roster. Making the heels all chicken shit, make the baby faces bland as possible.

Nothing I am saying is a nitpick, they are blatantly obvious. A nitpick would be, oh Elias has a different brand of guitar that wasn't the same brand as he had in NXT. No I am not saying nothing like that. I saying shit that you can clearly see happening on TV and you can see it within the performers. A lot of them are miserably because how they are being handle and treated. They have gone on record on podcast and talked about it, they have vented on Twitter, facebook and anywhere else they can vent. So it isn't just me looking at their faces and see that they are piss, they are letting the fans know themselves they are pissed.

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PostSubject: Re: Are NXT Main Eventers Worse off on the Main Roster   Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:00 am

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This just shows how you push and present someone matters. TNA took WWE job guy Derek Bateman and turned him into the main eventer.

Cody went from a joke to a star.

The head writers don't know how to make stars.

spot on

that is the issue. There are loads of talent in NXT, in WWE altogether...Yet They barely do shit with any of them. At one point they are all just blended together and no one feels special any more. Yes a hand few maybe, but most of them are just put into random feuds and programs that does nothing for them or does more harm than good.

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