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PostSubject: If the brands come back   Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:45 pm

Who should be on which show? which NXT guys should be on what show?

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:56 am

I feel like RAW would have all the big guys and SD! would be like the development brand.

But I'm gonna post a list of what I want to happen later.
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:11 am

RAW
Adam Rose
Alex Riley
Baron Corbin
Big Show
Bo Dallas
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Curtis Axel
Darren Young
Erick Rowan
Fandango
Goldust
Heath Slater
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Kane
Konnor
Luke Harper
The Miz
Mojo Rawley
R-Truth
Randy Orton
Roman Reigns
Rusev
Ryback
Sheamus
Titus O'Neil
Triple H
Viktor
Zack Ryder

SmackDown!
AJ Styles
Alberto Del Rio
Austin Aries
Big E
Bubba Ray Dudley
Cesaro
Chad Gable
Chris Jericho
D-Von Dudley
Damien Sandow
Dean Ambrose
Diego
Dolph Ziggler
El Torito
Fernando
Finn Bálor
Hideo Itami
Hornswoggle
Jack Swagger
Jason Jordan
John Cena
Kalisto
Kevin Owens
King Barrett
Kofi Kingston
Mark Henry
Neville
Sami Zayn
Samoa Joe
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
Sin Cara
Stardust
Tyler Breeze
Tyson Kidd
Xavier Woods

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:13 am

^ That seems pretty great. Judging by those rosters, I would fucking LOVE Smackdown. So many great talents. You make me wish that was actually the roster. Funny
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:46 am

**I am 100% against the return of the brand split.**

Raw:

General Manager: Shane McMahon
Announcers: Michael Cole, JBL, Byron Saxton

Championships:
WWE Heavyweight Championship
WWE Divas Championship
Intercontinental Championship
WWE Tag Team Championships

Adam Rose
Alberto Del Rio
Alex Riley
Big E
Big Show
Bo Dallas
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Bubba Ray Dudley
Chris Jericho
D-Von Dudley
Darren Young
Erick Rowan
Goldust
Heath Slater
Jack Swagger
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
John Cena
Kofi Kingston
Luke Harper
Mark Henry
Roman Reigns
Ryback
Seth Rollins
Sheamus
Sin Cara
Stephanie McMahon
Sting
Titus O'Neill
The Undertaker
Triple H
Xavier Woods
[Blake]
[Christopher Girard]
[Colin Cassady]
[Enzo Amore]
[Murphy]
[Sami Zayn]


Alicia Fox
Brie Bella
Cameron
Natalya
Nikki Bella
Paige
Rosa Mendes
Summer Rae
[Alexa Bliss]
[Carmella]
[Eva Marie]
[Mandy Rose]
[Nia Jax]
[Peyton Royce]

Smackdown!:

General Manager: William Regal
Announcers: Mauro Ranallo, Jerry Lawler, Rich Brennan

Championships:
World Heavyweight Championship
WWE Womens Championship
WWE Cruiserweight Championship
World Tag Team Championships



AJ Styles
Cesaro
Curtis Axel
Damien Sandow
Dean Ambrose
Diego
Doc Gallows
Dolph Ziggler
Fernando
Kalisto
Kane
Karl Anderson
Kevin Owens
Konner
The Miz
Neville
R-Truth
Randy Orton
Rusev
Shinsuke Nakamura
Sin Cara
Stardust
Tyler Breeze
Viktor
Zack Ryder
[Apollo Crews]
[Austin Aries]
[Chad Gable]
[Finn Balor]
[Hideo Itami]
[Jason Jordan]
[Manny Andrade]
[Mojo Rawley]
[Samoa Joe]
[Rich Swann]

Becky Lynch
Charlotte
Dana Brooke
Emma
Lana
Naomi
Sasha Banks
Tamina
[Asuka]
[Bayley]

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:21 pm

^ Why are you against the brand split, btw?
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:17 am

I don't want to raid NXT, there aren't 20 good free agents out there, and there aren't enough good tag teams or womens wrestlers. Everything else they can split into 2. I had to go Total Divas on Raw and Womens Wrestlers on Smackdown which was OK but only 8 per show means very little variety.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:03 am

That's true, if they create NXT as a touring band, they dont need to move anyone. Either way, they have a lot of talent they don't use.
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:30 pm

My main concern is females. How do you split what they have into 3 touring brands? Smackdown taking 1/3rd of the talent and having a "talent exchange agreement with NXT talent" might be the best case scenario. I still don't like it.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:43 pm

I wouldn't worry about the females at all. Once on the main roster they're going to be treated so that they can't actually be draws anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:13 pm

Easy, do what they used to do. They have a lot of females in NXT (they had that women's battle royal). They can have, let's say, Sasha Banks and Bayley on one brand and Charlotte and Becky Lynch on the other. Then have a bunch of the other women (Paige, Naomi, Tamina, Nikki if she comes back, Natalya) from the main roster split evenly, then fill the gaps with divas from NXT that they dont usually use all the time (Peyton Royce, Nia Jax, Emma, Alexa Bliss etc.) and then leave NXT with Asuka as the face and she can feud with Eva Marie, Dana Brooke, Carmella, etc. while they build up more female faces. There a LOT of female wrestlers they don't use right.
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:17 pm

If I had a brand split I would have only one World Champion.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:22 pm

Well, they put a lot of emphasis on the IC title on SD! right now, but I would definitely have two world titles. Having one undermines the other brand.
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:29 pm

No I mean have one World Champion and have him defend it on both brands.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:38 pm

Your proposed solutions (or indifference) to the female issue does nothing for me. They do not have enough talent to split the best workers up. The only one of them that is good enough to make someone else look better than they are is Sasha.

In Razor's scenario Raw would regress to pre-NXT status and Smackdown would be half of what it could be.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:00 pm

Would be interesting to see how WWE would handle a brand split this time around. They would have a big incentive to level the playing field between RAW and Smackdown since they share the same network like it was in the beginning.
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:05 pm

And there has been talks of Smackdown going live. They have two brands now (with WWE and NXT.) I don't think they can have three without two of them feeling short.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:16 pm

If they make two brands and have Smackdown be the "smarkish" brand, they can keep NXT developmental.

And what do you mean? Do you mean Sasha is the only talented female out of Bayley, Naomi, Paige, Charlotte, Becky Lynch, Emma, Alexa Bliss, and Asuka (and possibly Nikki)? They could very easily have a solid female roster on every show with the way I said it earlier. They have a ton of good females they don't use now as is, they could spotlight them more. Plus, they generally have 1-2 women's segments per show anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:13 am

No, I mean Sasha is the only one that can carry the ones that are below that group to a solid performance. Bayley can kind of do it in NXT but she leans on psychology and I'm not sure main roster fans will "get it."

Asuka is probably the best wrestler of the whole group, but how does she make someone that isn't in that top group look good?

For as long as the feuds stay "fresh" you can get by with only having 2 or 3 really good female wrestlers per show, but in the long run you can't. Sasha can carry the average wrestlers. Who is going to do that on the other show? Of course you can have Charlotte vs Becky and it'll be fine. Of course you can have a couple more feuds. But when you only really have 8-10 really talented female wrestlers and only one that can sell their ass off and make someone that isn't really that good look good, I don't know what the hell you do after a year.

Let's say you leave Asuka in NXT like you said.

Raw can be Charlotte, Becky Lynch, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Paige, and Alexa Bliss
(Smackdown: Sasha Banks, Bayley, Naomi, Tamina, Peyton Royce, and Emma)

Do four months of Becky vs Charlotte. Three months of Becky vs Nikki, Three months of Becky vs Paige, A PPV each for Alexa and Nattie... What do you have after that? Draft them and have half as many fresh match-ups? Do the same match-ups over again?

I don't think you can split 10 or so good female wrestlers into three touring brands and have the product of all three be interesting enough to keep fans interested in all three. I don't think they can establish new females fast enough to meet the demands of three touring brands. Yes, you can logically split them up and say "That is a talented group" but after an initial run you're looking at trying to shake up the roster and bring up new girls. I think you'd inevitably face rehashing and all three products would suffer.

Let's be completely honest about this... Charlotte vs Nikki might be a decent enough match, but no one is going to care. Natalya is better than decent and no one cares about her matches either. Together, where you can take advantage of all of your most talented performers and have them work together, you have a real chance at growing female wrestling. Apart, I think you're just hoping you don't drown. You have your feuds that will do very well on both sides, but after 9 months I think you're putting on feuds that you're hoping will buy you time while you figure something else out... and I don't think they can out-run that line for very long.

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I think they can do two touring brands pretty well. If they grabbed every top female free agent they could probably get a third brand. If you grabbed Candice LaRae (who is trying to get pregnant I think), Kimber Lee, Santana Garrett, what's left of Gail Kim, Cherry Bomb, Cheerleader Melissa if you can get her out of her LU contract... I think you could do it. I really don't see it right now.

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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:31 pm

Well yeah, but if they really need more women they can always leech the NXT women lol. They can bring Asuka and Dana Brooke up. NXT is supposed to be developmental anyway right? They can work around it, it's a 1 hour show with alternating rosters.

Alternatively, they could have the women's title on SD! and keep it to actual competition and have their total divas BS on RAW. I don\'t know
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PostSubject: Re: If the brands come back   Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:37 am

I would have the Intercontinental Championship elevated at the level of the World Heavyweight title like from September 2002 to December 2013 as the main event title for Smackdown and eventually have Finn Balor or Neville as the Intercontinental Champion/Face of Smackdown. That way guys like Tyler Breeze, Neville, AJ Styles, Bray Wyatt and Cesaro could main event Smackdown and build main event experience so that they could move on to RAW and the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.
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