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PostSubject: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:28 am

Mickie James' "piggy james" storyline was booked in a way to make Mickie James look weak because she was taking online college classes and preparing for life after wrestling.

Alvarez - "WWE doesn't do anything to prepare you for life after wrestling, but if you do it yourself, you're seen as the enemy!"

Meltzer - "You're not the enemy, you're seen as not loyal"

Dave Meltzer says that on TV he noticed that Mickie had put on weight, but upon seeing them live he noticed Mickie looked fantastic and everyone else was razor-thin. He said that was "part of the game" and he talked about how you got called up from OVW.

Jim Cornette worked his ass off with Mickie James and Mickie was doing great work but she'd never get called up. She got a boob job and was called up right away. Jim Cornette was working his ass off with Jillian Hall, trying to teach her how to be a babyface... she got a boob job, and was called up right away.

Bryan Alvarez talks about how ridiculous it is that the head of creative is a mother of two and recently (in 09) weighed over 200 pounds and they're insulting Mickie about her weight.

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PostSubject: Re: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:36 am

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Mickie James' "piggy james" storyline was booked in a way to make Mickie James look weak because she was taking online college classes and preparing for life after wrestling.

Alvarez - "WWE doesn't do anything to prepare you for life after wrestling, but if you do it yourself, you're seen as the enemy!"

Meltzer - "You're not the enemy, you're seen as not loyal"

I've often wondered if that was why CM Punk wasn't given a Wrestlemania main event in WWE... because he was doing MMA training and they feared if they gave into that, his last goal, he'd be out the door.

Similarly, Batista was trying to get into acting and he was ear-marked for a WWE Studios film, but was replaced by Triple H. That was why Batista walked out the first time. When you're seen as "not loyal" or otherwise looking on to the future, you're punished.

Dolph doing the comedy stuff and re-signing when offered the WWE studios movies is probably a strong indication they're going to fuck around with him more.

On that note, it seems to me WWE Studios movies is, more than anything, a tool used by WWE to get people who wouldn't ordinarily re-sign to do so.



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Dave Meltzer says that on TV he noticed that Mickie had put on weight, but upon seeing them live he noticed Mickie looked fantastic and everyone else was razor-thin. He said that was "part of the game" and he talked about how you got called up from OVW.

Jim Cornette worked his ass off with Mickie James and Mickie was doing great work but she'd never get called up. She got a boob job and was called up right away. Jim Cornette was working his ass off with Jillian Hall, trying to teach her how to be a babyface... she got a boob job, and was called up right away.

It's no longer just boobs, now it's ass. Compare Alexa Bliss' ass pictures from before she signed with now. Same with Paige.

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Bryan Alvarez talks about how ridiculous it is that the head of creative is a mother of two and recently (in 09) weighed over 200 pounds and they're insulting Mickie about her weight.

Reminds me of what AJ Lee said about Stephanie, about how she's not really supportive of women or womens athletics and despite being a "strong" women she's fine with the women being treated as inferior. I knew when Stephanie put her face on the divas revolution angle it was trouble.

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PostSubject: Re: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:15 am

Well WWE Studios sure as hell isn't a venture designed to create good films xD

But the Batista thing, I'm a tad skeptical agreeing with. I mean, he's one of Triple H's buddies, so I imagine he wouldn't have been treated that harshly. I could be wrong. Thought I do understand, in part, about the Punk thing. They probably didn't want to lose their top guy, at the time, to the UFC...which happened anyway lol. Still, you can't play around with people's lives.

The Piggy James thing was just utterly stupid and I hated it. She was never fat and was far better than 90% of the damn roster. If she wants to educate herself, that's only a good thing in my book. I understand they want their talent to look good and have 'the image', as it's the same with their male roster, but they take it too far with the divas. Not every woman needs tits and ass to sell tickets <_<

Of course Steph doesn't care about the other women. She's on top, so she doesn't need to fight for the females, because she's got everything she wants.
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PostSubject: Re: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:20 am

Yeah the Piggy James stuff was bullshit. I'm glade I don't pay attention to this promotion anymore I aint bothered

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PostSubject: Re: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:44 am

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But the Batista thing, I'm a tad skeptical agreeing with. I mean, he's one of Triple H's buddies, so I imagine he wouldn't have been treated that harshly. I could be wrong.

I am fairly sure Batista has said this himself. I don't know who made the call to go with Triple H, but it could be Vince or Kevin Dunn.

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PostSubject: Re: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:00 am

Ah, OK. I'm only going off what you said. I don't know it all.
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PostSubject: Re: Historical Observer 9/20/09 Highlights   Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:07 am

I thought the Piggy James stuff was to punish her for causing problems backstage after her breakup with John Cena.
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