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PostSubject: Re: OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish   OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2015 7:53 pm

I have never heard anyone ever say "I would like Dean Ambrose, if only he had a different finisher."

If he did have the rainmaker as his finisher, how the fuck would it be any different for him? He still be in the same spot he is in now.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish   OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2015 8:15 pm

You're right. Finishers don't matter.

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its how you book them. Ambrose could have the ass poke of death and people would love him. When he comes to getting the fans behind him, Dean has the fans. It's getting Vince behind him is whats the problem not his double arm ddt.
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Dean to start using The Iron Claw Oh the DRAMA

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PostSubject: Re: OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish   OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2015 9:30 pm

Give him the Big Splash. It worked for Warrior.

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PostSubject: Re: OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish   OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 01, 2015 9:35 pm

Dean should use the fingerpoke of doom, tbh.

When he rebounds off the ropes, he should just charge at his opponent, stop right in front of them, and poke. Dead.
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Brilliant.

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Ehh, I can't really picture him using the Rainmaker as a finisher. I do agree that the DDT isn't doing him any favors though. Being the unstable guy, he needs a finisher he can hit from out of nowhere, kinda like the Stunner or RKO. I think the Hangman's Neckbreaker would suit him well.
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It doesn't have to be The Rainmaker. It has to be literally anything other than a DDT.

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Why do you hate his finisher so much? Funny

I'd understand if it were a regular DDT, but it's not. It's a Double Underhook Swinging Snap DDT. What's wrong with it?

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He did a second rope tornado DDT last night and I'm supposed to believe that does less damage than his normal finish.

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PostSubject: Re: OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish   OPINION: Dean Ambrose should steal The Rainmaker as a finish - Page 2 EmptyThu Apr 02, 2015 3:50 am

Hogan buried everyone with a Leg Drop.

So yes...yes you are.
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There are plenty worse finishers now, and in history, than the Double Underhook DDT, in terms of looking like they don't do that much damage. The Attitude Adjustment is the finisher of one of the top guys in the WWE and that looks way less devastating than getting driven head-first into the canvas.

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You are supposed to believe that MVP's finisher was "powerful" when it was weird as fuck (not sure if he still uses that on that other promotion WWE doesn't acknowledge), and supposedly did more damage than Matt Hardy's "Side Effect" Razz

Imo, Ambrose's DDT is good for a finisher. C'mon: Head first on the canvas / floor (supposedly). That is bound to hurt more than a forearm to your neck.
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MVP does still use that finisher, but not too often. It is God awful... "Oh no...you've rolled me onto the mat. What ever shall I do?" <_<

He uses a Shining Wizard style kick now, which is WAYYYY better lol.
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Yeah. Kicks, Knees to the head, hell, even Wade Barrett's finisher. These are much more credible than that finisher lol
Anything to the head is always a good finisher. (well except for a head scissors) >_>
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Because the entire rest of the roster hits DDTs that never finish guys. How on earth do you have people see Ziggler's jumping snap DDT finish NO ONE and then have Ambrose's finish not do a damn thing? It makes Ambrose look stupid and look like shit.

IMO, the DDT doesn't mean anything and hasn't in about twenty years. It's like Eric Young trying to use the Pile Driver. It's too common to be saved as a legitimate finish.

And saying Hogan's finish is relevant is ignorant. If Hogan tried to get over TODAY with that leg drop, he'd be Mojo Rawley. It's only valid because it's nostalgic.

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What about JBL's Clothesline from Hell, or Harper's Discus Clothesline? They're based on the most basic move around, and they were over.
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They look more devastating than the average clothesline, whereas Dean's DDT looks much worse than the average DDT.

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Being underhooked and the head "potentially" connecting the mat/floor underneath the other person's body weight. Well... tell me how that won't hurt anyone?
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I think Dirty Deeds is kind of dependent on the opponent selling it, actually. Like, I've been watching videos of it, and Harper and Kane sold it by just falling forwards, whereas Cena flung himself face-first into it, and made it look like death.

I wonder if adding a lift to it would work? Like Gangrel used to do?
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My Hogan comment was a joke <_<
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Just picturing RVD selling it and how he would spike himself.

BTW EY's Piledriver is awesome <.<
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NO IT'S NOT OMG.

Go watch Slammiversary and see the mark crowd absolutely NOT GIVE A SHIT about his finish. No one buys a piledriver in 2015.

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Ian I think I am going to start calling you a hipster because you are acting one.
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