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PostSubject: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 10:09 pm

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Now before you get on my case, I really don't hate him. He's one of my favorite superstars/wrestlers.

The title was just to catch your attention. I wanted to know if we have anybody that doesn't dislike/hate Shawn Michaels and I want to know why?

What do you think of the "backstage politics" that HBK been involved in? Does it matter?

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 10:14 pm

I dont hate him but im not the biggest fan of him either. He does put on 5 star matches though regardless of who he faces most of the time.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 10:30 pm

One of the greatest all around workers to ever grace a wrestling ring. As for the incidents he's been involved within, I believe he's far gone from those days and he shouldn't be held to them. Even Bret Hart forgave Shawn Michaels, I believe anyone else can, too.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 11:16 pm

Shane Douglas will never forgive HB Gay I aint bothered 

I like what Jim Cornette said the most. People who find God normally has to since no one else will be their friend.

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 1:10 am

You can't not enjoy a match of his.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 1:14 am

Favorite wrestler of all time.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 8:32 am

Dammit' iLike, I was about to open up a can of whoop ass xD

But yeah, no secret I am virtually gay for this guy ( 8) ) and think he is the single greatest all round superstar that the wrestling World has ever seen. He could talk as both a face and a heel. He was convincing as either a hell or face and could be enjoyed as either. His in ring ability was always tremendous and had an energy from his that was never been, and never will be, replicated.

In regards to his attitude and stuff, he'll be the first to tell you that he was a complete ass back in the day and is sorry for things he did. But I personally think, in regards to politics, that era was SO enthralled in it. If you didn't get ahead of the pack in some form, you were left behind. Everyone that made it then used politics at least in some form. If you didn't, you were stepped on and long gone. I'm sure his little Click back then was a pain to deal with, though.

And in regards to Cornette, the guy orgasms over a can of Sprite and knows more about fast food restaurants than the restaurants themselves do... If Michaels is happy having religion in his life, more power to him.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 8:36 am

No one outperforms him. 7 consecutive match of the year awards is amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 8:37 am

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And in regards to Cornette, the guy orgasms over a can of Sprite and knows more about fast food restaurants than the restaurants themselves do... If Michaels is happy having religion in his life, more power to him.
Cornette's lost his belly since he left ROH I aint bothered 

And Shane Helms saw shades of the old HBK when he was in WWE, apparently anyway. I didn't really see if anyone one else from today was complaining about him.

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 10:40 am

Second favourite wrestler of all time. Undertaker > HBK...At least to me anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 11:04 am

Superb wrestler.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 11:25 am

One of the best in ring guys of all time. Great on the mic and an amazing in ring story teller. I put him at number four on my list.

1 hogan
2 savage
3 mick foley
4 hbk

He might have been a douche back stage, but the wrestling isn't a fair business. Its eat or be eatin. Especially being the top guy, you will step on a lot of toes. Tho hbk slammed his foot on toes and he is sorry for that. Hbk got clean, found god and his 2 nd run was better than his first.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 12:56 pm

The thing that bothered me most about Michaels is if he would over-sell shit to make you look like shit if he didn't like you. He did it to Angle... Pretty poor sport IMO.

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 1:04 pm

He did against Angle? Which match? I saw 2 of their 3 matches and I didn't notice it in those two.

And I disagree with Bull's list big time...
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 1:05 pm

Yeah, I can't recall him doing that to Angle. I remember him doing it to Hogan, because he was a douche...
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySun Sep 01, 2013 2:01 pm

Agreed with Ian, that was dumb, regardless of who it was against.

Nonetheless, he was awesome in wrestling itself, as a WRESTLING fan, I could give half a shit about the things he did backstage.

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptyMon Sep 02, 2013 6:38 am

Razor Xtreme wrote:
Agreed with Ian, that was dumb, regardless of who it was against.

Nonetheless, he was awesome in wrestling itself, as a WRESTLING fan, I could give half a shit about the things he did backstage.
What about when his bullshit got on screen like when he "lost his smile?" Or when he last his shit in a match with Big Van Vader at SummerSlam?

Micheals has the same problem as Jerry Lawler. They're both great wrestlers but they let their egos get in the way of business and end up hurting it and fucking other guy that didn't need to be.

You guys are making an argument that someone need to fuck the other guy but there's a point when it's detrimental to business. When Micheals was on top WWF was doing shit business. It wasn't all his fault but his bullshit didn't help.

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptyMon Sep 02, 2013 11:59 am

Michaels is awesome. That is all.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptyMon Sep 02, 2013 2:10 pm

@MooseNugget wrote:
Razor Xtreme wrote:
Agreed with Ian, that was dumb, regardless of who it was against.

Nonetheless, he was awesome in wrestling itself, as a WRESTLING fan, I could give half a shit about the things he did backstage.
What about when his bullshit got on screen like when he "lost his smile?" Or when he last his shit in a match with Big Van Vader at SummerSlam?

Micheals has the same problem as Jerry Lawler. They're both great wrestlers but they let their egos get in the way of business and end up hurting it and fucking other guy that didn't need to be.

You guys are making an argument that someone need to fuck the other guy but there's a point when it's detrimental to business. When Micheals was on top WWF was doing shit business. It wasn't all his fault but his bullshit didn't help.
Then he put on a shit match. Oh well, boo hoo. I'm a wrestling fan, not a fucking businessman. If I cared about "the business" and "backstage politics" and I were a wrestling promoter, THEN I'd give 2 shits about how someone is backstage. Why the fuck do I care how someone is backstage?

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptyMon Sep 02, 2013 10:19 pm

Every company has't the backstage shit. the only place I can think of that doesn't might be chikara
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Jun 18, 2016 4:53 am

I didn't know how shit Shawn Michaels was onstage at times when this debate was active.

Like seriously Vince must have been desperate in his war against WCW when he put Michaels in front of a crowd all fucked up high and shit.

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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Jun 18, 2016 10:19 am

Didn't HBK stop in a middle of a match with Vader to yell at him to move?
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Jun 18, 2016 10:41 am

Yeah, it was at SummerSlam '96.
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Jun 18, 2016 12:26 pm

If Chilly were here he'd be defending Michaels to death
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PostSubject: Re: I Hate Shawn Michaels!   I Hate Shawn Michaels! EmptySat Jun 18, 2016 12:53 pm

I can't remember who but someone called Old Shawn an alpha...I don't think an alpha gets his ass kicked a lot in real fights and always went crying to Vince about something
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