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Subject: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:26 pm
- UFC welterweight Cathal Pendred is saying that he will be CM Punk's first UFC opponent. He wrote the following on Twitter:
"This punk is going to be 'one & done' in the UFC. It looks like I will be that one. #JustWonTheLottery"
He also Tweeted:
"Croke Park, 2015 Main Event: Aldo vs McGregor Co-Main: Pendred vs CM Punk
UFC attendance record smashed. UFC PPV sales record obliterated."
Source: LordsofPain.net
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:14 pm
"Cathal Pendred"
Who?
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:46 pm
http://www.ufc.com/fighter/cathal-pendred
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:55 pm
I've still never heard of him
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:48 am
But the dude is 2-0 in fights against guys you've never heard of, he's going to coast to a win over Punk
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:55 pm
He has a 15-3-1 record. If this is Punk's first fight, this will end ugly for Punk.
First round the guy will just fuck with Punk. Soon as round 2 begins, knock Punk down and just pounds on his face with in seconds.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:44 pm
Del Rio had a 9-5 record in MMA for those that think wrestlers with no formal wrestling experience stand no chance. This guy is 13-3-1 in officially sanctioned non-UFC fights... As in, not that far off from what Del Rio managed.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:51 pm
KevIan wrote:
Del Rio had a 9-5 record in MMA for those that think wrestlers with no formal wrestling experience stand no chance.
No formal wrestling experience? Del Rio was a national wrestling champion, was on track to be in the olympics before Mexico pulled out because of a lack of funding, and had a number of other accomplishments. He was experienced and trained well before he entered MMA, compared to Punk who it appears has never actually had any combat sports experience outside of sparring.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:54 pm
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:57 pm
^ What Jelly said. ADR had a background and so Brock did with his legit wrestling. So trying to compare Punk to ADR or even Brock is silly.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:05 pm
This guy has had years of experiences, trains day after day. Punk did Jiu-Jitsu on his free time and as a wrestler meaning he wasn't either able to train that much or that not long.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:05 pm
Brock and ADR also don't work because they're just two examples of many, and most don't end that way. Yuji Nagata was (Well, is) a tough mother fucker and an amazing pro wrestler, but he got thrown into MMA fights with just a lot of amateur experience, and it didn't end well at all:
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:07 pm
Funny how both Yuji and ADR both got their asses kicked by Cro Cop
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:25 pm
Punk debuts in Ireland. I could get tickets to this Also hope McGregor wins again in front of 82000 screaming fans.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:23 pm
realt wrote:
Punk debuts in Ireland. I could get tickets to this Also hope McGregor wins again in front of 82000 screaming fans.
See that's the important thing to UFC. He's a money draw
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:51 am
But it also helps that an Irish man is main eventing in Ireland
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:04 pm
MooseNugget wrote:
realt wrote:
Punk debuts in Ireland. I could get tickets to this Also hope McGregor wins again in front of 82000 screaming fans.
See that's the important thing to UFC. He's a money draw
So was The Rock, and you hated when he was spotlighting in WWE. >_>
Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:14 pm
The Rock was outsold by CM Punk during The Rock's run in WWE
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:15 pm
I like how you showed Nagata getting destroyed by world class fighters like Fedor and Cro Cop. That's funny.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:32 pm
It is more funny than it is relevant to the discussion, I just find it amusing that Inoki would think that it'd help NJPW to put a guy who's never fought before against Fedor and Cro Cop (Although I'm fairly sure neither was viewed as the killers they turned into at that point).
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:06 pm
^^^ That - whether true or not - changes literally NOTHING about anything.
Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:08 pm
KevIan wrote:
The Rock was outsold by CM Punk during The Rock's run in WWE
The majority of the sales of WM 28 & 29 are because of the Rock vs Cena matches.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:41 pm
Batman wrote:
MooseNugget wrote:
realt wrote:
Punk debuts in Ireland. I could get tickets to this Also hope McGregor wins again in front of 82000 screaming fans.
See that's the important thing to UFC. He's a money draw
So was The Rock, and you hated when he was spotlighting in WWE. >_>
It's not like CM Punk is getting a UFC title match for being famous
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:48 pm
#FreeRiley wrote:
KevIan wrote:
The Rock was outsold by CM Punk during The Rock's run in WWE
The majority of the sales of WM 28 & 29 are because of the Rock vs Cena matches.
Uhhhhhhh based on fucking what? How can you say a PPV buy rate that was because of them like it's a big deal when it was 100,000 more than the average the first year and below average the second?
The Wrestlemania based around Daniel Bryan and nothing else was seen by 1.3 million paid fans... More than either Cena/Rock PPV. Their match did barely anything to alter buy rates.
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Subject: Re: Punk's First Fight Revealed? Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:51 pm
Punk isn't taking anyone's spot. At absolute worst he's taking a fight away from a person that's never fought in the UFC before and, based on how earning fights works, it'll be the guy that deserves it the absolute least.
He's going to fight some guy no one has ever heard of, give him a shot to make a name for himself, and make money for all involved. Punk fighting is great for literally everyone in the UFC. There is no downside because the WWE and UFC markets are different.
I don't know if he'll do well or not, but being an average fighter isn't that hard. That's why the turnover in the UFC is so damn high.