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Eeyen TeamMoose
Posts : 14180 Join date : 2013-07-19 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:21 am | |
| No, you're acting like I killed my team when clearly I didn't. Your arguments are nonsensical. If Kelvin Benjamin is so good, trade Shady for him. You said Robinson was boom or bust like it was an insult but when I said the same about Kelvin you just dismissed it. |
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
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| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:46 am | |
| Killed your team? Your team was already in trouble with him. And how is Benjamin even comparable to Robinson when Benjamin has gotten over his projected points 6 times in 8 games? That doesn't seem vey boom-or-bust to me. |
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Eeyen TeamMoose
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| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:55 am | |
| Because he's entirely dependent on touchdowns which aren't predictable week to week? |
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:03 am | |
| This is the 9th week already & he's proven he can consistently get points in FF, how many more weeks do you need? And it's not that Robinson can't do it, but he won't do it because he's on a poor team that struggles to move the ball. |
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Go ills go Icon
Posts : 16995 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:44 am | |
| - EEYEN wrote:
- Señor Drächen wrote:
- Proof: Davis had the combine score of 3 the last 3 weeks prior to this one.
... He scored 0, 3, and had a bye. The week before the 0 he had 11. He's had more than 10 points just as much as he's had under 10 since I traded for him. He's averaging 7.5 in the 4 actual weeks he's played since I acquired him to be a handcuff, AKA better than your starting RBs. Owned - EEYEN wrote:
- During those weeks, he's had THE SAME NUMBER OF POINTS AS LESEAN MCCOY. 5 weeks, 30 total points and a bye week. You look stupid. Like almost Burdur levels of stupid.
1) You're giving yourself credit for Davis matching an underachieving RB (part of which for Knile came from special teams)... It wasn't a bad trade because especially while Charles was out you needed a RB more. Your argument ends at Davis being a good handcuff for Charles but he's someone you can't trust to start now so obviously you gave up too much for him with Benjamin doing what he's doing: basically being a trustworthy starter. But I wouldn't blame anyone for not realizing Benjamin would be this consistent with the TD's he's getting, that's why I couldn't blame you much for that trade. He was someone I was praising as a great late-round pick and I still wouldn't have thought he'd be this good. 2) I make Drachen look like Napolean Dynamite. I know my shit. |
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| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:58 am | |
| Well honestly, I wouldn't say you "got robbed" either in that trade at all but there's no way to justify you not losing, it's just that you lost the better fantasy player. But you didn't necessarily need him so it wasn't a bad idea to take a safe route there for the loss. |
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Eeyen TeamMoose
Posts : 14180 Join date : 2013-07-19 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:35 am | |
| I didn't lose. The value of a #1 handcuff is more than the difference between Allen Robinson and Kelvin Benjamin, end of discussion. Value at WR is very replaceable. Value at RB isn't. If you had Jamaal Charles and you would trade Allen Robinson and Knile Davis for Kelvin Benjamin, you're an idiot.
It's been five weeks since I made the trade. The difference between Kelvin Benjamin and Allen Robinson is exactly ONE POINT PER WEEK.
You wouldn't trade one point a week for a handcuff to your top RB insuring you that you're GUARANTEED the lead back in a run first offense?
That's beside the fact that Davis has continued to produce. Even taking away his special teams touchdown, he's had two double digit games in the four non-bye weeks we've had since the trade. That's exactly as many double digit RB point games as Burdur's combined starters over the same period. The same as Leo's combined starters over the same period, and half as many as Drachen's.
So, in just four games... Knile Davis has had 10 points or more (even without the special teams touchdown, which for some reason doesn't count in your heads) just as much as Leo and Burdur's starters in ten games.
Knile Davis is statistically, over that period, more likely to score 10 points than all three of your teams starters.
Davis hits 10 points or more 50% of games. Drachen's starters hit 10 points or more in 40% of games. Burdur's and Leo's starters hit 10 points or more in 20% of games.
(Disclaimer: I included Leo's name cause he has talked shit in the past)
The trade benefited both sides because Davis had minimal value for Huh, and had he signed Allen Robinson he would have lost out on the five points of difference. It hugely benefited me because I sacrificed one point a week to get a running back that would start on most of yalls teams and one that provided me with the security for the rest of the season.
Yall were wrong. Period. There is no evidence to the contrary. Yall just love Kelvin Benjamin's dick it seems like, or you're ashamed I acquired a back-up that's more likely to do well than your starters so you're trying to discredit it. |
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Go ills go Icon
Posts : 16995 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:05 pm | |
| at the last line tbh Honestly, I've been agreeing with your reasoning, and especially agree that it's easier to find valuable WR's, I just don't think Allen Robinson is as trustworthy as Benjamin and even while he's performing right now it's a downgrade by a little bit as you said. Meanwhile, you are no longer starting Knile Davis and have no reason to trust him as a starter despite him doing reasonably well. For the insurance on Charles, though, I guess I'd have to agree that you didn't really lose for your team's benefit, you only lost the better player, but gained enough insurance to make it worth starting Robinson over having Benjamin. Huh's the real genius as usual though... he got a steal. |
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Eeyen TeamMoose
Posts : 14180 Join date : 2013-07-19 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:43 pm | |
| Just admit I'm right. |
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TJ Ω #TeamRomie
Posts : 5285 Join date : 2013-07-23 Age : 29 Location : Where I Shouldn't Be
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:56 pm | |
| "You guys take fantasy football way too seriously" |
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Go ills go Icon
Posts : 16995 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:10 pm | |
| Says the guy who goes into deep depression from this every year. |
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:22 pm | |
| Whose list is longer? The Undertaker's streak at WrestleMania or the guys Huh has ripped off in trades?
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:24 pm | |
| - EEYEN wrote:
Davis hits 10 points or more 50% of games. Drachen's starters hit 10 points or more in 40% of games. Burdur's and Leo's starters hit 10 points or more in 20% of games.
(Disclaimer: I included Leo's name cause he has talked shit in the past)
Any smear you try make about my team scoring points is invalid. You can't talk trash about the highest scoring team in the league.
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| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:29 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:43 pm | |
| i traded victor cruz for drew brees before lol.
getting kelvin for knile was a good trade for me, but i can see Ian's logic
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:50 pm | |
| - Huh wrote:
- i traded victor cruz for drew brees before lol.
I guess you can add my name to that list of people you ripped off then |
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Mexi TRU
Posts : 12714 Join date : 2013-07-22 Age : 27 Location : Pasco, WA
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:41 am | |
| This nigga Huh thinks i'm stupid enough to trade him Miller for Vereen. |
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Posts : 16995 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:49 am | |
| Huh's trying to trade off Vereen pretty bad. |
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:51 am | |
| To think he had his chance when I was offering up TY & Morris for Vereen & Thomas. Too late now. |
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Posts : 16995 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:04 am | |
| To be fair he almost got you to do Vereen for Morris straight up. You were already spreading your cheeks. |
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Eeyen TeamMoose
Posts : 14180 Join date : 2013-07-19 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:18 am | |
| Someone trade me a QB. |
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:16 pm | |
| Mink will give you Eli |
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Mexi TRU
Posts : 12714 Join date : 2013-07-22 Age : 27 Location : Pasco, WA
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:46 pm | |
| I'll give him a piece of shit for Vereen. |
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Eeyen TeamMoose
Posts : 14180 Join date : 2013-07-19 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:21 pm | |
| A good QB Willing to deal Richardson or potentially Mathews if Charles Sims becomes the lead back in Tampa like he's projected to be. Two starting RBs on the block |
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Dragon Fx KingofSwing
Posts : 9018 Join date : 2013-07-23
| Subject: Re: 2014 Trade Central Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:50 pm | |
| Burdur, straight swap for Brady & Manning |
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